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mickeyrench

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a builder installed the ground wire #4 to the wrong side of the house . the poco wants the service on the left side of the house and the builder installed the ground wire on the right with about 10' of wire exposed. the cable is about 20' short to reach the correct side. what is the best way to correct this ? also when giving a builder a price on a job do you include taxes to in the price or do you added it to the bid price latter?
 
Use an irreversible type of connector to splice on the length of conductor you will need to reach the service equipment.

Mechanical type connectors are not permitted to be used for splicing grounding electrode conductors. 250.64(C)(1)
 
The bid price is the price and includes everything. The only way to increase the bid price is through a change order. You would have a hard time convincing a customer that taxes must be added to the bid....
 
What kind of taxes are you asking about, sales tax? Here there is no sales tax collected for capital improvements.
 
mickeyrench said:
the cable is about 20' short to reach the correct side. what is the best way to correct this ?
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If you don't own the crimping tool for the compression connectors I have heard Caddy / Erico is selling one shot cad weld kits.
 
iwire said:
If you don't own the crimping tool for the compression connectors I have heard Caddy / Erico is selling one shot cad weld kits.
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if he doesnt own the molds already buying the mold might be more expensive then buying a crimper. not sure on this but i know those molds are expensive
 
electricalperson said:
if he doesnt own the molds already buying the mold might be more expensive then buying a crimper. not sure on this but i know those molds are expensive
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Molds can be expensive, molds last for a lot of shots. :cool:

But I have heard Caddy is selling some cheaper one shot kits with disposable molds and that was what I was suggesting.:smile:
 
Get yourself a Burndy MD6-8. Now's the time. You'll find a million and one uses for it after you own one. About 300 dollars.

I know a couple of my supply houses will loan you either a T&B TBM-6 or a Burndy MD6-8 to use for a day or so. Worth an ask at your supply house.
 
iwire said:
Molds can be expensive, molds last for a lot of shots. :cool:

But I have heard Caddy is selling some cheaper one shot kits with disposable molds and that was what I was suggesting.:smile:
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It's the CADWELD Plus one shot:

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http://www.erico.com/products/plusoneshot.asp
 
I have the the Greenlee K09-2GL. I don't know how it stacks up against Marc's Burndy recommendation but for the few time's I've needed it, it's paid for itself.

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We have used the one shots with good success where they have been required.

We also have an older Burndy crimp tool that works very well but lacks the tooling on the dies that indicate you have used the correct one after crimping. I've seen that requirement in the last couple specs I looked at. It was a good purchase 25 years ago. Had a helper that managed to break a handle on it. I spoke kindly and softly to him.
 
mdshunk said:
Get yourself a Burndy MD6-8. Now's the time. You'll find a million and one uses for it after you own one. About 300 dollars.

I know a couple of my supply houses will loan you either a T&B TBM-6 or a Burndy MD6-8 to use for a day or so. Worth an ask at your supply house.
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where can you get one for $300, google took me to one $800
 
SiddMartin said:
where can you get one for $300, google took me to one $800
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http://store.jharlen.com/fciburmd68.html

Greenlee also has an identical tool now, and their part number might even be MD6-8 also. It has plastic handles rather than the old-school hickory one's that the Burndy one has.

EDIT... Here's the Greenlee one. They had a couple at my supply house a while back, and they told me they were $329.
http://www.mygreenlee.com/Products/...=showGreenleeProductTemplate&upc_number=02064
 
I have used the one shot cad welds for several years. they are inexpensive and work ok after you get used to them (buy a couple for first time)
 
mdshunk said:
http://store.jharlen.com/fciburmd68.html

Greenlee also has an identical tool now, and their part number might even be MD6-8 also. It has plastic handles rather than the old-school hickory one's that the Burndy one has.

EDIT... Here's the Greenlee one. They had a couple at my supply house a while back, and they told me they were $329.
http://www.mygreenlee.com/Products/...=showGreenleeProductTemplate&upc_number=02064
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thanks. ever use a hydraulic one? I haven't and don't do enough resi serv to buy one.
 
one shot

one shot

nakulak said:
I have used the one shot cad welds for several years. they are inexpensive and work ok after you get used to them (buy a couple for first time)
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You need to handle the little box that they come in carefully! The molds can break easily! I have had many already broken upon opening. Hey nakulak!! Have I not seen that picture somewhere???:roll: Kind of favors Bob!:grin: :D
 
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