20 amp bath circuit

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We have the required 20 amp outlet with in 36 in. of the bath room sink basin.

But my helper took a wire out of one of the 15 amp bed room circuits for a oulet in the bath room near the door. He said they might want a lamp their.
Is this allowed? Or does it need to be on the 20 amp circuit?
 
buckofdurham said:
We have the required 20 amp outlet with in 36 in. of the bath room sink basin.

But my helper took a wire out of one of the 15 amp bed room circuits for a oulet in the bath room near the door. He said they might want a lamp their.
Is this allowed? Or does it need to be on the 20 amp circuit?
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No. All the recepts in a bath must be on the 20a bath circuit. 210.11(C)(3).
 
IMO NEC 210.11(C)(3) does not say all the receptacles in a bath must be on a 20a dedicated bath circuit. Even reading through the thread still seems like there is a lot of debate.
 
You can put the GFCI receptacle in the bathroom on the same circuit as the entire bathroom if the bathroom is the only thing served by the circuit.
 
I agree with mistermudd, 210.11(3) does not say you can't a 15 amp circuit in the bathroom. It just saids one " at least one 20 amp ... shall be provided.
 
mistermudd said:
IMO NEC 210.11(C)(3) does not say all the receptacles in a bath must be on a 20a dedicated bath circuit. Even reading through the thread still seems like there is a lot of debate.
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And I agree, if the intentent was for all receptacles in a bath room to be supplied by a 20 amp circuit, 210.11(C) should have included the word "all" (as 210.12(B) does) instead of the words "at least one".


Roger
 
At least one 20 ampere branch circuit shal be provided to supply bathroom receptacle outlet(S)

Pretty clear to me, if you have a bathroom receptacle outlet or outlets they have to be supplied from at least one 20 amp circuit.

You can have 10 receptacles on one 20 amp circuit or you can have 10 receptacles on 10 20 amp circuits but you can not have ANY receptacles on a 15 amp circuit.
 
electricmanscott said:
You can have 10 receptacles on one 20 amp circuit or you can have 10 receptacles on 10 20 amp circuits but you can not have ANY receptacles on a 15 amp circuit.
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Kind of a problem when someone wants an electric dryer in the bathroom. :wink:
 
M. D. said:
only if it is 125 volt
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I believe that Scot's view was that only 20 amp branch circuits may supply bathroom receptacles.

I have seen a number of bathrooms with 30 amp 240 volt receptacles for electric clothes dryers.
 
electricmanscott said:
At least one 20 ampere branch circuit shal be provided to supply bathroom receptacle outlet(S)

Pretty clear to me, if you have a bathroom receptacle outlet or outlets they have to be supplied from at least one 20 amp circuit.

You can have 10 receptacles on one 20 amp circuit or you can have 10 receptacles on 10 20 amp circuits but you can not have ANY receptacles on a 15 amp circuit.
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I think your reading in what is not there.
"Exception: Where the 20-ampere circuit supplies a single bathroom, outlets for other equipment within the same bathroom shall be permitted to be supplied in accordance with 210.23(A)(1) and (A)(2)."

It does not say "shall be REQUIRED to be"
 
Jacuzzi tubs usually require only a 15 amp circuit, and they are technically in the bathroom. I agree with the 20 amp requirement that "at least one 20 amp" is required, not all.
 
iwire said:
I believe that Scot's view was that only 20 amp branch circuits may supply bathroom receptacles.

I have seen a number of bathrooms with 30 amp 240 volt receptacles for electric clothes dryers.
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Are you intentionally trying to confuse things? You know what we are talking about here..... :wink:
 
acrwc10 said:
I think your reading in what is not there.
"Exception: Where the 20-ampere circuit supplies a single bathroom, outlets for other equipment within the same bathroom shall be permitted to be supplied in accordance with 210.23(A)(1) and (A)(2)."

It does not say "shall be REQUIRED to be"
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That applies to the required 20 amp receptacle circuit
 
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electricmanscott said:
At least one 20 ampere branch circuit shal be provided to supply bathroom receptacle outlet(S)

Pretty clear to me, if you have a bathroom receptacle outlet or outlets they have to be supplied from at least one 20 amp circuit.

You can have 10 receptacles on one 20 amp circuit or you can have 10 receptacles on 10 20 amp circuits but you can not have ANY receptacles on a 15 amp circuit.
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I'll just quote myself. :grin:
 
Scot we have not left the topic.

If your saying I can not have 15 amp branch circuits supplying receptacles in bathrooms based on 210.11(C)(3)then that also means we can not have 30 amp circuits supply receptacles.
 
Scott, as Bob says, you can't have it both ways with the current wording.

With the current wording, as long as there is one 20 amp circuit supplying a receptacle outlet the requirement is satisfied, there is nothing prohibiting additional receptacle outlets on 15 amp circuits.

As an aside, my wife will sometimes dry her hair in front of the dresser in the bedroom which is on a 15 amp circuit.

Roger
 
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