2005 Nec on CD

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After some more looking around I found it for $95 , the others included the book (which I already have 2)..... You are right Trevor, it sucks paying even $95 for a $.99 CD. I think I paid about $75 for the first book and I can see a little more reason for that because of printing costs etc. but a CD? once they make the first one they can spit them out cheap and quick!

Oh well, got to pay the big guy's.............
 
infinity said:
Really stinks paying 190 bucks for a $.99 CD.

You are mistaken. It is $.99 for the CD and $189.01 for the infinite wisdom of the NFPA. :p :razz:
If you load the CD on your computer, it is frequently faster (for me anyway) than the book. I frequently don't have my computer with me so I need the book. :)
 
hockeyoligist2 said:
My laptop is always with me since I work on PLC's.......... but even though I have 2 books I have always left them somewhere............. I guess thats called being old and forgetful...........

Gee, you are lucky. You know how many books you have. My wife tells me I should have 6 of them, but I think it is only 4. I can only find one at the moment. Are you sure one of those 2 isn't mine?:razz:
 
As far as I know you can not load the 2005 NEC Codebook onto your computer. From what I remember the 2005 NEC Handbook is loadable but the standard code book version isn't. I have the 2005 codebook on CD and it's rather slow since it needs to constantly access the information from the disk. I remember reading about a virtual CD drive that will load the CD to a virtual drive on your hard disk. Not sure if they really work. Seems like the guys over at NFPA have really tried to limit piracy which kind of retards the usage of the CD.
 
infinity said:
As far as I know you can not load the 2005 NEC Codebook onto your computer. From what I remember the 2005 NEC Handbook is loadable but the standard code book version isn't. I have the 2005 codebook on CD and it's rather slow since it needs to constantly access the information from the disk. I remember reading about a virtual CD drive that will load the CD to a virtual drive on your hard disk. Not sure if they really work. Seems like the guys over at NFPA have really tried to limit piracy which kind of retards the usage of the CD.

Well, the NFPA isn't worried about being user friendly, after all the index in the code book doesn't have page numbers! :) I have used a CD ripper program to put CD's on my hard drive for easier access. It depends on how well they have protected it.
 
The 2005 NEC can be loaded onto your hard drive with a $30 program from Paragon. It creates a virtual hard drive. This is what Mike Holt uses.
I understand the 2005 NEC handbook can loaded onto up to three computers.
 
infinity said:
Really stinks paying 190 bucks for a $.99 CD.


Does it also stink getting $2000 for $800 of material and labor?


If you want to pick up the NEC or NECH for less, check eBay.



Some guy is selling the 2005 NEC as a .pdf for "instant download" - at under $20, the NFPA might be wondering where their share is.
 
tom baker said:
The 2005 NEC can be loaded onto your hard drive with a $30 program from Paragon. It creates a virtual hard drive. This is what Mike Holt uses.
I understand the 2005 NEC handbook can loaded onto up to three computers.


I know that I read about them somewhere, just wondering how well they work.
 
Paragon makes a program that will allow you put a virtual CD of the NEC on your hard drive. this is the program that Mike Holt uses.
 
ryan_618 said:
I have never had better luck than with Bill's site (ECN):

http://www.electrical-contractor.net/The_Store/NEC_Code2005.htm


Ryan , pulled your link up.... first thing I see is the electricalc calculator. Any of you ever use this thing??? It's god sent!! Our company gave us one. You need to learn how to do the calcs first or else IMO you become lazy as an apprentice and never learn. Besides that, I use mine quite a bit, very awsome.
 
celtic said:
Does it also stink getting $2000 for $800 of material and labor?

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That doesn't apply to me since I'm Industrial. I'm paid by the hour. I do think that the price is a little steep and if they reduced the price there would be a lot more people using it. We have 16 electricians at our company, and only 2 of us have a 2005 code book! The other guys say they can't afford it! So you know that Joe Handyman isn't going to spend the money on one!
 
hockeyoligist2 said:
celtic said:
Does it also stink getting $2000 for $800 of material and labor?

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That doesn't apply to me since I'm Industrial. I'm paid by the hour. I do think that the price is a little steep and if they reduced the price there would be a lot more people using it. We have 16 electricians at our company, and only 2 of us have a 2005 code book! The other guys say they can't afford it! So you know that Joe Handyman isn't going to spend the money on one!

Tell your employer to buy them. How can you do your job safely and to code without the proper tools to do so?:confused:
 
If you get employer to buy books, let me know how you did it. I've been trying to get mine to and I'm getting nowhere fast.
 
hockeyoligist2 said:
celtic said:
Does it also stink getting $2000 for $800 of material and labor?



That doesn't apply to me since I'm Industrial. I'm paid by the hour. I do think that the price is a little steep and if they reduced the price there would be a lot more people using it. We have 16 electricians at our company, and only 2 of us have a 2005 code book! The other guys say they can't afford it! So you know that Joe Handyman isn't going to spend the money on one!

The price of the book is not an incentive to buy it - you don't have to buy it..it can be accessed for FREE online at NFPA's website.

If you NEED to buy the book, then you buy it.
If your company isn't willing to supply you with the neccessary tools (the NEC) to do you job correctly - then YOU buy it (and write it off on your taxes along with any other tools, PPE, etc).
Only you can decide if you want to be a professional or a hack.
(NOTE: "You" is not directed at hockeyoligist2 personally. "You" is anyone reading this thread :) )

Joe Handyman isn't going to spend a dime if he doesn't have to.
Joe Handyman doesn't "need" the NEC ~ for starters, he won't understand it....it's not a design manual. He'll grab Home Wiring 1-2-3 from the big box/amazon stores and STILL do it wrong.
 
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