Gentlemen: I suggest that all references to lamp bases/sockets (e.g. medium, mogul, etc) reflect the IEC nomenclatures: e.g. E-27, E-40, B22, BA15d, etc. I also suggest the following changes to the 2008 NEC: 1. That the practice of putting a PVC TA into a threaded hub (e.g. a Bell box) be prohibited, and a requirement similar to CEC (Canadian Electrical Code) 12-1210 (2), (3) in which a close nipple with PVC FA is required; 2. That a receptacle for vehicle engine block heaters be provided in (residential) parking spaces, similar to a requirement in CEC 8-400;( Useful in Alaska, and also useful for battery charger or other tools associated with automotive maintenance. 3. That the CE mark be recognised as an approval (similar to UL/CSA) as long as the device being used can be safely operated with no adverse effects.
2008 code proposals
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bphgravity
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- Florida
Re: 2008 code proposals
1. I don't see how a PVC TA presents a potential hazard to life or property necessitating such a change. What substantiation was provided mandateing the change in the CEC?
2. This is a design issue in my opinion. A receptacle for that purpose is certainly not prohibited to be installed and I would not find them particularly useful here in Florida.
3. Not really a code issue.
I don't really have an opinion about your first suggestion. There are many descrepancies between NEC terminology and other technical documents. Perhaps they can do a Article 410 type arrangement with a term and the other in parenthesis or make a reference to that document and section in a FPN.
1. I don't see how a PVC TA presents a potential hazard to life or property necessitating such a change. What substantiation was provided mandateing the change in the CEC?
2. This is a design issue in my opinion. A receptacle for that purpose is certainly not prohibited to be installed and I would not find them particularly useful here in Florida.
3. Not really a code issue.
I don't really have an opinion about your first suggestion. There are many descrepancies between NEC terminology and other technical documents. Perhaps they can do a Article 410 type arrangement with a term and the other in parenthesis or make a reference to that document and section in a FPN.
petersonra
Senior Member
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- Northern illinois
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- engineer
Re: 2008 code proposals
the ce mark is NOT the same thing as being listed by a NRTL. I think there is zero chance of that part of your proposal getting approved.
the ce mark is NOT the same thing as being listed by a NRTL. I think there is zero chance of that part of your proposal getting approved.
ryan_618
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- Salt Lake City, Utah
Re: 2008 code proposals
Do you have a technical substantiation?
Why would I need an engine block heater in Florida? If Alasks wants one, they can amend the ENC on the local level.
The recognintion of CE is not an NEC issue. NRTL's are a requirement of OSHA, not the NEC.
Do you have a technical substantiation?
Why would I need an engine block heater in Florida? If Alasks wants one, they can amend the ENC on the local level.
The recognintion of CE is not an NEC issue. NRTL's are a requirement of OSHA, not the NEC.
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- Bremerton, Washington
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- Master Electrician
Re: 2008 code proposals
"I suggest that all references to lamp bases/sockets (e.g. medium, mogul, etc) reflect the IEC nomenclatures: e.g. E-27, E-40, B22, BA15d, etc"
Not a bad idea. After all we went from fixture to luminare in 2002. Submit a proposal and then get support from the lighting industry for supporting comments.
Or make a proposal for a FPN to an ansi standard
"I suggest that all references to lamp bases/sockets (e.g. medium, mogul, etc) reflect the IEC nomenclatures: e.g. E-27, E-40, B22, BA15d, etc"
Not a bad idea. After all we went from fixture to luminare in 2002. Submit a proposal and then get support from the lighting industry for supporting comments.
Or make a proposal for a FPN to an ansi standard
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