2008 or 2011?
- Thread starter Lazlo
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Does it really matter if the bid documents/general specifications say to be estimated/installed per 2011,so be it ,the inspector has to follow suit doesn't he?
I'm thinking the 2011 is issued,then it becomes the ruling factor with the owners buy in,unless written differently????
dick
I'm thinking the 2011 is issued,then it becomes the ruling factor with the owners buy in,unless written differently????
dick
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- New Jersey
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- Journeyman Electrician
Here in NJ the State sets an adoption date and then allows a grace period of 6 months for jobs that may have already been drawn up and bid but haven't started. During the grace period you state on the permit if you're building to the earlier version of the NEC. If you don't make the declaration then your automatically using the currently adopted version. As Roger stated every jurisdiction may be different in their approach.
The owner could say they wanted the project to follow a more current code even if it is not officially the code of the area but, in the case of where a newer code may relax a particular requirement there would be a problem. IMO newer codes don't necessarily mean better requirements or rules. The inspector could only inspect for compliance with the addopted code, anything beyond would be the designer to follow up on.
Roger
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- New Jersey
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- Journeyman Electrician
If his say falls outside of the 6 month window then no (againthis in for NJ). As Roger stated he could say install to the latest code even if it hasn't been adopted but the more stringent of the two codes (the current and the future) would need to apply.
From your profile I assume you are from California, which has adopted 2008 and there is also CEC {California Electrical Code}. CEC is almost identical to the 2008 NEC with minor changes and additions.
The NEC 2011 will be enforced by state of CA and local jurisdictions beginning of January 2014.
That makes sense ,inspection wise but if the designer was working towards an owner's spec then it's on the owner not the designer.like everyone.The engineering company if given total responcibility and the employee(designer) would have a responcibility to do as the engr,co dictated a vicious circle,,still the owner is making final directions in the gray areas in writing and the I would think the inspector would look for compliance to the doc the owner wants and of course would not have any liability status what so ever.
IMO and I say that because I have seen many code exceptions/violations by the owners even during the construction phase.
dick
Dick, I am not sure how it works where you are but, in most cases the engineer/designer and his/her seal is the main game. The designer will work around the owners desires but the owner has very little say in codes and design (engineering) particulars.
Roger
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Inspectors and especially non-governmental inspectors inspect to the Code and to the Specs, which ever is more restrictive.
IN WV
Inspectors and especially non-governmental inspectors inspect to the Code and to the Specs, which ever is more restrictive.
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