2008 Virginia CE Requirements

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radiopet

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Starting for all Journeyman & Master Electricians as of Jan 1, 2008 the State of Virginia has finally started to require 3 hours of NEC Update Education by approved instructors with the DPOR in Virginia.

Currently there are about 7 or 8 of us approved around the state and more are sure to come.
 

radiopet

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Rob,

I am not sure if the DPOR has announced it yet or not, I do know the list of approved CE providers are posted on their site. The URL is below.

None of Mike's courses are approved as of yet except the one I use which is his course, but it is simply a matter of Mike's office submitting to the DPOR for approval which should come soon I would guess...but the online ones will probably not......unless they can ensure a method that times the class to 3 hours and no less so that someone can't RUN through the course.

http://www.dpor.virginia.gov/dporweb/tra_approved_continuing_edu.pdf
 

radiopet

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cadpoint said:
Ya'll are getting off easy with "3" try "10" a year for NC ...

well lets just say I was the one who SPEAR HEADED the DPOR to demand CE requirements. After 2 years of e-mails and conversations we are LUCKY to have atleast 3 hours....I was pushing for alot more but I guess we have to start somewhere.

3 hours is better than nothing.......;)

I told them....3 hours of code updates is well.......basically not enough time to do alot of anything, but as I said it is better than nothing and it will hopefully weed out the guys who are simply sitting on their license and not really using it unless they pay to play...:)
 

memyselfandI

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This is interesting. In the long run it's good to see that they are finally making sure that we are aware of the changes. Now all they have to do is make it mandatory for all jobs to be manned by at least a Journeyman on site then we could get rid of the career helpers.
 

kbsparky

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R Bob said:
I also have a license in Prince Goerges County, MD. They require 10 hours also.
I have both a PG license, and Delaware. Both require 10 hours per 2 year renewal

While the courses I took for Delaware were not on the PG "approved" list, I was able to submit them on their supplemental sheet at renewal, and they were ruled by the PG board as acceptable. I received my renewed license in the mail just last week. :smile:

Now, I'll have to inform my course instructors to get DPOR approval as well it would seem.

I wrote a letter to the MD State Board asking them about adopting some sort of statewide standard, superceding PG's and other counties' requirements. I got a reply stating that the legislature will have to be involved in such a change, so I expect it will be awhile before anything gets done at that level. In the meantime, many of the counties in MD are adopting their own rules requiring continuing education for renewal. I believe at least 4 counties on the Eastern shore have adopted this as of 2008 renewal.

So far, they all have chosen 10 hours per 2 years as the base requirement.
 

radiopet

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memyselfandI said:
This is interesting. In the long run it's good to see that they are finally making sure that we are aware of the changes. Now all they have to do is make it mandatory for all jobs to be manned by at least a Journeyman on site then we could get rid of the career helpers.

I hear ya brother......might be the next issue we try to tackle....
 

JohnJ0906

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kbsparky, I know the Electric League of MD has been pushing for Cont. Edu. for some time, also expanded licencing. The proposal I have seen would call for ALL people working in the electrical field to be "carded", helpers, apprentices, journeymen, and Masters. J-men and Masters to have CEU required.
 

kbsparky

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JohnJ0906 said:
kbsparky, I know the Electric League of MD has been pushing for Cont. Edu. for some time....
I used to belong to the Electric League, but their presence here on Delmarva is quite limited. They would be more appropriately called the Electric League of Baltimore, since their emphasis is on the Balto metro area.

Is Gil Thompson still around?
 

radiopet

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Guys In Virginia- CE Requirements

Guys In Virginia- CE Requirements

Hey Guys,

Just wanted to let you all know that if you are renewing your license in 2008 and need to meet the new DPOR 3-hour requirement. My course was the first to be approved by the state.

We have seminars coming all around Virginia and can be found on our website for this www.ElectricalSeminars.net so if you need the update class there you go.

Mr. Holt and Mike Holt Enterprises,Inc. are aware of these events and we are using their NEC? 2002 Code Update Book for the classes.
 

RHJohnson

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I am having a problem with the soon to begin CEU in N.C. It is definitely not enough class time. I maintained licenses in several states, and as a result had to attend lots of classes, in various subjects. It was great.. I always liked learning how to be better, and how some areas did things a little different. I would check to see which classes were available and acceptable by the state in which my license was held. Then I would attend whichever class I preferred - even driving to another state. Now, a 3 hour class on NEC code changes is not much more than a waste of time. Experience tells me you can spend the whole time arguing over the interpretation of one code change! And,...you better believe interpretation of the NEC is not the same all over the country. It all comes down the the AHJ and that inspector who just walked on the job.
I worked in NC about 12 years ago. The EC hired the lowest skill people I ever saw on a job, and he paid them accordingly. I did manage in the end to get that EC removed from the job.
I worked on a job in Wyoming, which required 100's of electricians at each of several job sites. They came from all over the country. Some had licenses, and some did not....some without licenses were pretty darn good....Wyoming gave everyone of those electricians without a license, who could prove sufficient experience a temporary license, good for 90 days. A test day was set up, and a little over 100 electricians from my jobsite tested. Five ( 5 ), that is not a typo.....only 5 electricians passed....
This 3 hour CEU is just going to make some instructor a lot of money. What is required is a strong license program, from apprentice to journeyman to master. Enforce an apprentice/journeyman ratio, school requirements during the apprenticeship, and then proper CEU classes and hours/days of training.
 
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