2011 New York City Electrical Code

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Tainted

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Does anybody know or have any insight to when they will upgrade the 2011 New York City Electrical Code?
 

gene6

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Do you think they will still adopt 2014 even though it's almost 2023 lol

They are long overdue...
Is there some particular new thing in the code your looking forward to?
From my limited dealings with city code officials new codes that improve safety are taking priority, and the sentiment is that nothing really new or useful have been coming out of the NEC in over 10 years.
I would not be surprised to see some jurisdictions freeze the code on a 10 year cycle and just adopt a select few changes.
I would also not be surprised to see a 'fork' in the code, where a large jurisdiction moves away from the NEC entirely.
 

Tainted

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Is there some particular new thing in the code your looking forward to?
From my limited dealings with city code officials new codes that improve safety are taking priority, and the sentiment is that nothing really new or useful have been coming out of the NEC in over 10 years.
I would not be surprised to see some jurisdictions freeze the code on a 10 year cycle and just adopt a select few changes.
I would also not be surprised to see a 'fork' in the code, where a large jurisdiction moves away from the NEC entirely.
There is nothing I'm looking forward to in the new code, it's just mere curiosity.

Honestly don't know why there are different versions of the code book... Electricity doesn't care if it's in NYC or somewhere in Canada...
 

gene6

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For solar PV systems "Rapid shutdown" was a big change in the 2014 code cycle.
 

infinity

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There is nothing I'm looking forward to in the new code, it's just mere curiosity.

Honestly don't know why there are different versions of the code book... Electricity doesn't care if it's in NYC or somewhere in Canada...
NYC has always had a home rule approach to the electrical code. Prior to the adoption of the amended version of the NEC many of the sections of their own electrical code were so poorly written that they could have been interpreted ten different ways.

It makes little sense in the coming 2023 or 2024 that they would go from the 2008 NEC to the 2014 but given that way they do things it's to be expected.
 

gadfly56

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Does anybody know or have any insight to when they will upgrade the 2011 New York City Electrical Code?
When's your expected retirement date?

They updated the building code in 2014. Before then, it was 1968. Before then, it was 1938. One update also in 2008.

Admittedly, they are getting better. The construction code is up to 2022 now, starting November 7.
 

tortuga

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NYC fire data would be a great case study to see if code changes actually increase safety. Such a densely populated city.
 

gene6

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They constantly run the data and yeah the new versions of NFPA codes are pointless revisions pushed by huge corporate lobbyists.
Other jurisdictions should take note.
Its time to fork the code.
 
They constantly run the data and yeah the new versions of NFPA codes are pointless revisions pushed by huge corporate lobbyists.
Other jurisdictions should take note.
Its time to fork the code.
I agree. States need to start ditching the NEC and move to another code that is based on statistics and cost/benefit analysis, has no mahufacturers on its panels, doesnt have absurd stuff from 100 years ago that has no basis in electrical theory, and written by writers who can actual come up with cohenerent English sentances.
 
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