208V gfci

[steve_p]

Hi,

I received a call from a maintenance man at a medical facility. An Arizona state inspector informed him that a 50A 208V 3 phase steam cooker and a 20A 208 3 phase coffee pot needed gfci protection because they were within 6' of a sink.

The steamer is cord connected to a bell box with an in-use cover.

The coffee cord connected to a single purpose receptacle.

I can't see anything that covers this in the 2002 code book (which this county falls under).

Also, is there a way to gfci protect 3phase 208V?

Thanks

Steve

 

[480sparky]

Ask him for a code reference. There isn't one in the NEC.

 

[RUWired]

Steve, The n.e.c. only requires 15 and 20 amp 125 volt receptacles in commercial kitchens to be gfi. It could be a local code.I have never heard of it but i don't get around much.

Here is a link to square d for 3 phase gfi breakers.

http://www.squared.com/us/products/circuit_breakers.nsf/unid/AC153DA8D6DB8C508525711000770F10/$file/multi9gfpFrameset.htm

 

[480sparky]

Doesn't look like they're designed for personnel protection if they start at 30mA.

 

[celtic]

An installation that falls under the authority of a State inspector, may have a higher standard than that which falls under a local authority - in either case, the AHJ flagging the install should provide you with reference. If reference is not provided, demand it.

 

[George Stolz]

Doesn't look like they're designed for personnel protection if they start at 30mA.

Yep, those are only good for equipment, they're not GFCI's.

 

[steve_p]

Thanks for the responces. I will call the inspector for more info.

Steve

 

[LarryFine]

If reference is not provided, demand it.

"I demand it!"​

 

[eric stromberg]

"I demand it!"​

From the Star Trek episode "Court Martial." Aired 2.Feb.1967 (first season).
Great show. Upon seeing the prosecuting attorney, a very striking woman, who introduced herself as "an old friend of James T. Kirk's," McCoy responded with "All my old friends look like doctors, all of Jim's old friends look like you."

The defense attorney standing next to Captain Kirk is Samuel T. Cogley, Attorney at Law.

 

[LarryFine]

The defense attorney standing next to Captain Kirk is Samuel T. Cogley, Attorney at Law.

Played by Elisha Cooke, Jr., who also played Crazy Willie in Electraglide in Blue.

 

[Minuteman]

That reminds me of something. We are doing some work in an office building. I noticed that the hallway drinking fountains are GFCI protected with a GFCI recep directly under the fountain.

We did a school remodel once, and did not install GFCI protection on any of the fountains.

Which is correct?

 

[infinity]

That reminds me of something. We are doing some work in an office building. I noticed that the hallway drinking fountains are GFCI protected with a GFCI recep directly under the fountain.

We did a school remodel once, and did not install GFCI protection on any of the fountains.

Which is correct?

GFCI protection is not required for drinking fountains.

 

[charlie b]

. . . in an office building. . . the hallway drinking fountains are GFCI protected with a GFCI recep directly under the fountain. . . . (in a) school. . . (we) did not install GFCI protection on any of the fountains. Which is correct?

Neither is "correct."

Both, however, are code compliant. You don't need to install them, but you certainly may, if you wish.

 

[LarryFine]

Which is correct?

Whichever meets the requirements of the plans and specs.