210.52(C) and Section 210.52(C)(3)

Status
Not open for further replies.

Dennis Alwon

Moderator
Staff member
Location
Chapel Hill, NC
Occupation
Retired Electrical Contractor
My purpose here is to delete the unnecessary required outlet that must be installed on the peninsula between the wall and the dividing equipment. The wall receptacle should be sufficient. IMO.

This is totally new to me so here goes---and for all those that think trying to word the code properly is easy-- give it a try.

1) Nec Section 210.52(C) and Section 210.52(C)(3)
2) Delete Text/add text
3) Delete entire second paragraph of 210.52(C) and Delete the last sentence of art. 210.52(C)(3) and add new text.

Old Text
210.52 (C) Countertops. In kitchens, pantries, breakfast rooms, dining rooms, and similar areas of dwelling units, receptacle outlets for countertop spaces shall be installed in accordance with 210.52(C)(1) through (C)(5).

Where a range, counter-mounted cooking unit, or sink is installed in an island or peninsular countertop and the width of the countertop behind the range, counter-mounted cooking unit, or sink is less than 300 mm (12 in.), the range, counter-mounted cooking unit, or sink is considered to divide the countertop space into two separate countertop spaces as defined in 210.52(C)(4). Each separate countertop space shall comply with the applicable requirements in 210.52(C).

210.52(C)(3) Peninsular Countertop Spaces. At least one receptacle outlet shall be installed at each peninsular countertop space with a long dimension of 600 mm (24 in.) or greater and a short dimension of 300 mm (12 in.) or greater. A peninsular countertop is measured from the connecting edge.

New Text
210.52 (C) Countertops. In kitchens, pantries, breakfast rooms, dining rooms, and similar areas of dwelling units, receptacle outlets for countertop spaces shall be installed in accordance with 210.52(C)(1) through (C)(5).


210.52(C)(3) Peninsular Countertop Spaces. At least one receptacle outlet shall be installed at each peninsular countertop space with a long dimension of 600 mm (24 in.) or greater and a short dimension of 300 mm (12 in.) or greater. An outlet mounted on the wall in this space would count as one of the required outlet for the countertop when the peninsula is divided by a range, counter-mounted cooking unit, or sink . If the countertop is continuous or undivided then the peninsula counter top would be measured from the connecting edge and one receptacle is required to serve this countertop.

Substantiation: If an outlet is mounted on the wall in line with the peninsula then there would be no need for another one when the peninsula is divide by a range, counter-mounted cooking unit, or sink since one is required on the far side of the dividing equipment..

Presently a peninsula that is 8’ long is only required to have one receptacle. If I install it at the end of the island then there is a distance of 10 feet from the last required wall outlet and the one for the peninsula. If a
range, counter-mounted cooking unit, or sink is installed in the middle of this peninsula then the required wall receptacle would cover the countertop to the equipment that divides the counter. There would still be a required receptacle on the divide counter past the equipment that divides the countertop. There will always be outlets closer together in this scenario than when there is a long undivided countertop.

 
Personally I like your idea. The required second receptacle on the peninsula can be an installation nightmare. On the end isn't so bad but the one in the middle makes designers, homeowners, architects and electricians cringe. :rolleyes:
 
infinity said:
Personally I like your idea. The required second receptacle on the peninsula can be an installation nightmare. On the end isn't so bad but the one in the middle makes designers, homeowners, architects and electricians cringe. :rolleyes:

Thanks Trevor-- I was also hoping for some feedback on the wording. I ain't too good with words. :grin: I was concerned there was a scenario that I missed or needed to change. Thanks again. I may actually submit this.
 
infinity said:
Personally I like your idea. The required second receptacle on the peninsula can be an installation nightmare. On the end isn't so bad but the one in the middle makes designers, homeowners, architects and electricians cringe. :rolleyes:

I agree.
I don't think I am one to help with the wording, though.
 
I would offer an easier solution: Delete the reference to (C)(3) from (C)(4).

Then you don't have to figure out the wording so much, which is awkward to describe, IMO. My 2?. :)
 
It looks good to me.

I'll tell you what gets me. When the ''peninsular'' is also used as a bar.
Their is always a 12" over hang. Making the outlet(s) have to go on the end.
Because you can't put it under the bar if you have 12'' or more of the granite over hanging to be used as a bar. Why can't they make it 11 1/2":smile:

I have not used that little single outlet yet that Dennis post a picture of every now and then. It seems the picture is always a white one. But I'll bet they have brown.
Dennis what's the name of that place again. It's in Cary, right?
I want to use it in this house I'm doing at the GC in Chatam.
Thanks in advance.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top