210.52(e)1

[jumper]

I was reading the one inch as a typo and really one foot, if it was one inch why not a slab instead of a deck, but either way the code also doesn't say while standing on essentially grade level either :wink:

Where does it define grade level? not picking a fight here,trying to learn. 1 inch changes grade level:-?

 

[wirebender]

Cut a hole in the deck in front of the receptacle so they can stand on the ground.

 

[C3PO]

Where does it define grade level? not picking a fight here,trying to learn. 1 inch changes grade level:-?

Don't sweat it I am thick skinned. It don't, but to me if a person has to walk onto a deck to get to the receptacle then it is not accesabile while standing at grade level. That is not grade level it is "deck level".


I would like to know from the OP if he meant one inch or one foot though. To me, when I use the term deck I am refering to something out of wood or similar material. And I know that I wouldn't build a wood deck that is one inch above ground.

If it is one inch then it might be close enough for the inspector to cut him some slack but I think he has every right to want another receptacle. Just my two cents.

 

[Smart $]

Cut a hole in the deck in front of the receptacle so they can stand on the ground.

:grin::grin: LOL :grin::grin:

...or cut in a trap door

 

[don_resqcapt19]

2-231 Log #1624 NEC-P02 Final Action: Reject
(210.52(E))
____________________________________________________________
Submitter: James Tente, City of Naperville
Recommendation: Revise text to read as follows:
For a one-family dwelling and each unit of a two-family dwelling that is at
grade level, at least one receptacle outlet accessible while standing at grade
level and not more than 2.0 m (6 1/2 ft) above grade shall be installed at the
front and back of the dwelling where the dwelling unit is located at grade level
and provided with individual exterior entrance/egress, at least one receptacle
outlet accessible. While standing from on grade level and not more than 2.0 m
(6 1/2 ft) above grade shall be installed. See 210.8(A)(3).
Substantiation: Present language is vague. The interpretation of ?accessible?
can vary greatly and is commonly misinterpreted. The panel statement for 2005
ROP 2-236 (Log #3197) clarifies the meaning of ?accessible? and should be
included in code text for clarity.
Panel Meeting Action: Reject
Panel Statement: The panel reaffirms it?s previous position that ?at grade?
means ?while standing on grade?. See the panel action and statement on
Proposal 2-230.
Number Eligible to Vote: 12
Ballot Results: Affirmative: 11 Negative: 1
Explanation of Negative:
WEBER, R.: The panel should have accepted this proposal as submitted,
when we consider the full range of the persons using the code simplified
language as recommended will solve a lot of confusion of the requirement
being encountered out in the field. The addition of the term ?while standing? at
grade will make it clear that a receptacle installed on an elevated porch, that is
accessible by stairs from grade, would not meet the requirements of section
210.52(E).

 

[JES2727]

Well I guess that settles it!

 

[wirebender]

There's your answer:

The addition of the term ?while standing? at
grade will make it clear that a receptacle installed on an elevated porch, that is
accessible by stairs from grade, would not meet the requirements of section
210.52(E).

 

[John25]

Thanks Don that make it clear. The 1" was an exaggeration.

 

[jumper]

Thanks Don that make it clear. The 1" was an exaggeration.

Ditto on the thanks to Don, I am on the 05 code and the clairification helped alot.