210.63 question

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I recently connected an air condition compressor on an existing house that did not have AC before. I installed a GFCI rec right inside in the crawlspace door. The door does not have a lock. It is within 25' of the AC unit.

Would you consider this a violation?
 
SmithBuilt said:
I recently connected an air condition compressor on an existing house that did not have AC before. I installed a GFCI rec right inside in the crawlspace door. The door does not have a lock. It is within 25' of the AC unit.

Would you consider this a violation?

If the compressor was right outside a window with a receptacle just inside would you say that meets the requirement?
 
Tim

I think you are OK the way I read it, but wasn't there wording in there at one time requiring this receptacle to be "with in sight"?

Joe
 
iwire said:
If the compressor was right outside a window with a receptacle just inside would you say that meets the requirement?

No, but I also would not consider that on the same level.

I do consider the crawlspace on the same level.
 
I'd say there is no way to use this receptacle and be working on the outside unit without violating 400.8(3) so can you satisfy one section with a violation of another???
 
M. D. said:
I'd say there is no way to use this receptacle and be working on the outside unit without violating 400.8(3) so can you satisfy one section with a violation of another???

I'm satisfied violating that rule since common sense would say the crawl door would not be closed while working on equipment. BUT rules are rules.

Good eye MD.
 
SmithBuilt said:
I'm satisfied violating that rule since common sense would say the crawl door would not be closed while working on equipment. .

What does common sense have to do with it? :wink:

Besides that section does not mention the position of the door.
 
you know I have not heard an inspector chime in on this issue..wonder how any them view it and if they have a code reference..I do not have one but it sounds like something I would not do..:)
 
SmithBuilt said:
You've been around long enough to know you cannot make a statement like that without a code reference.
abe72487 said:
The REcp is not "within sight" of the AC unit so it would be a violation.

Reference?
Yes, I cant seem to find the phrase "within sight":-? :smile:
 
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M. D. said:
400.8(3)???

I'd better stop putting my extension cord through the window to install the receptacle for the servicing of the air cond. :smile:


American Heritage 3rd Ed.

level, n.

5. A flat, horizontal surface.

6. A land area of uniform elevation.

level, v. -intr

1. To bring persons or things to an equal level; equalize.

The intent of Art 210.63:... Dont make it hard for the guy to find or get to. Simple stuff really.

:grin: :grin: :grin:
 
frizbeedog said:
level, n.

5. A flat, horizontal surface.

6. A land area of uniform elevation.

level, v. -intr

1. To bring persons or things to an equal level; equalize.


So I assume you believe elevation is the violation? Which definition do you think applies to this?
 
frizbeedog said:
I'd better stop putting my extension cord through the window to install the receptacle for the servicing of the air cond.

:grin: :grin: :grin:

How about you buy some of them new fangled battery tools?? or use the required outside receptacle and a cord longer than 25',.. hey?,,.. wait a minute ,... if we can do it why can't they???:grin:
 
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SmithBuilt said:
So I assume you believe elevation is the violation? Which definition do you think applies to this?

What do you believe? ;)

I believe we can't figure it out without a good dictionary.

Cause "They" use big words that hurt my head sometimes.
 
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