240v light switch outside

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I have 2-240v. 400watt outside lights I shutoff at the 2pole breaker in the load center inside.What type of switch do I need to get to wire it outside?do I need a 2pole switch for outside use?????Thanks
 
I have one question before i can answer this this is in the resdental or commercal area ??

if this is in resdentail there is a code that can not use the 240 volt luminaires in there.

if this is in commercal area it allowed to do that but if you have the NEC code book please look at the 210.6(a)

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210.6 Branch-Circuit Voltage Limitations​
The nominal voltage of branch circuits shall not exceed the values permitted by 210.6(A)
through 210.6(E).​
(A) Occupancy Limitation​
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In dwelling units and guest rooms or guest suites of hotels,
motels, and similar occupancies, the voltage shall not exceed 120 volts, nominal, between
conductors that supply the terminals of the following:​

(1) Luminaires (lighting fixtures)

this is basically for resdental code you can see why.

if other think i am wrong please point it to me

Merci , Marc

p.s. i am ready for debates if you like to.
 
Is a 240 volt light outside of a a dwelling unit the same as in a dwelling unit?


210.6 Branch-Circuit Voltage Limitations​
The nominal voltage of branch circuits shall not exceed the values permitted by 210.6(A)
through 210.6(E).​
(A) Occupancy Limitation​
In dwelling units and guest rooms or guest suites of hotels,
motels, and similar occupancies, the voltage shall not exceed 120 volts, nominal, between
conductors that supply the terminals of the following:​

(1) Luminaires (lighting fixtures)
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frenchelectrican said:
p.s. i am ready for debates if you like to.
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OP stated "outdoor"... surely one can have 240V outdoors, right?

edit: sheesh, 5am and Trevor beats me by 2 minutes :smile:
 
What about 225.7(C) I don't see dwelling in the list of where these fixtures could be used.
 
M. D. said:
What about 225.7(C) I don't see dwelling in the list of where these fixtures could be used.
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I am not sure it prohibits the 240 volt fixture.

I keep reading the section and become more confused with each read.
 
I thought the NEC was an , if it is not prohibited, it is permitted kind of standard, then I read an article like that and it seems to turn that premise upside down .

(A) states ...Shall comply with (B) through(D),.. (C) states Circuits exceeding 120 volts but not more than 277volts shall be permitted to supply fixtures for lighting outdoor areas and then the list ,..my house ain't on the list. and oh yeah if you do use a fixture requiring a voltage higher than 120,... not within 3" from widows ,doors ,fire escapes, platforms and the like.

It seems to me they don't want them used at all and then they made an allowance for them at specific locations,.. and then they excluded some spaces at those locations.
 
I am not sure where the confusion is.
210.6 specifically lists an occupancy (residential)..240V lights not permitted.
225.7(C) does permit lighting of 240V for specific occupancies (other than dwelling units), as long as one follows the conditions stated.
 
rongudlin said:
I have 2-240v. 400watt outside lights I shutoff at the 2pole breaker in the load center inside.What type of switch do I need to get to wire it outside?do I need a 2pole switch for outside use?????Thanks
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Where is your journeyman?
 
rongudlin said:
I have 2-240v. 400watt outside lights I shutoff at the 2pole breaker in the load center inside.What type of switch do I need to get to wire it outside?do I need a 2pole switch for outside use?????Thanks
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If you are allowed to use these fixtures 410.48 requires a double pole switching device
 
THe light's are for an outdoor horse riding area.I want to switch them out side to keep people out of the load center.Is there a rating for a 2-pople switch for 4-400watt lights that I should use??The load is about 8 amps.per the manufacturer of the lights.Would a standard 2-pole 15a switch with w.p.box and cover be correct per Nec. code???thanks
 
I'm embarrased to ask too many questions.The people i work with are not Helpful or patient.They don't like me asking alot of Questions.thanks for your help
 
rongudlin said:
I'm embarrased to ask too many questions.The people i work with are not Helpful or patient.They don't like me asking alot of Questions.thanks for your help
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With a 20 amp 2 pole switch is what I would use ,you could surface mount a pvc box if recessed is not preferred

Hang in there with your journeyman ,for as long as you can , keep your eyes peeled for a Co. that will appreciate your willingness to learn,... and please don't be afraid to ask any thing here , no question is too silly , for proof Big oops ... need suggestions hundreds of posts on "is a switch an outlet" :D
 
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rongudlin said:
THe light's are for an outdoor horse riding area.I want to switch them out side to keep people out of the load center.Is there a rating for a 2-pople switch for 4-400watt lights that I should use??The load is about 8 amps.per the manufacturer of the lights.Would a standard 2-pole 15a switch with w.p.box and cover be correct per Nec. code???thanks
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Now that make sense.:D


Merci, Marc
 
Pierre C Belarge said:
225.7(C) does permit lighting of 240V for specific occupancies (other than dwelling units), as long as one follows the conditions stated.
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I don't think it's as clear as you make it out to be.

M.D. explained it well.

I thought the NEC was an , if it is not prohibited, it is permitted kind of standard, then I read an article like that and it seems to turn that premise upside down .
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