250.64(D)(3) EGC Starting Point

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If I ground the wireway per the option allowed on 250.64(D)(3), where would you start the EGC wire from?
Right from the wireway to the disconnects or from the disconnects to the panels or neither?

Please see picture below, thanks

 
If I ground the wireway per the option allowed on 250.64(D)(3), where would you start the EGC wire from?
Right from the wireway to the disconnects or from the disconnects to the panels or neither?

Please see picture below, thanks

Think carefully about what you are trying to accomplish and don't lose track of what an NEC section is about. 250.64 is about connecting the grounding electrode conductor to the system, system grounding, it is NOT about "grounding the wireway". Completely different things.

Regarding BONDING, there are no EGC's on the line side of the service disconnect.
 
The EGC is between the disconnect and the panel. Ahead of the disconnect is a bonding jumper if required for bonding a metal service raceway.
 
I don't think I'm using the correct name. So at the disconnect, you just bond the neutral to the enclosure metal and that's it?

You don't run a separate green "bond" conductor from the disconnect to the wireway?

What about the meter that would be ahead of the disconnect, any separate green "bond" conductors to that?
 
The wireway is bonded to the neutral either directly or via a bonding jumper. In each service disconnect you'll install a main bonding jumper (MBJ) which will create the EGC for everything after the service disconnects.
 
You don't run a separate green "bond" conductor from the disconnect to the wireway?

What about the meter that would be ahead of the disconnect, any separate green "bond" conductors to that?
Like rob said those need to be bonded either to the neutral or a bonding jumper or via a raceway with service bonding....but.....the section you mentioned is about connecting the grounding electrode conductor to the system (assuming we aren't talking about an ungrounded system). Different things.
 
I feel like I'm almost understanding it haha

Why do they show these Bonding SSBJ here then? (my understanding up to this point is that they wouldn't be needed)

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I think the intended purpose of that graphic is to show the "common location" method of connecting a GEC to the grounded conductor of a service with multiple service disconnect enclosures. The other common method is the "tap" method where you tap off the GEC to each enclosure and land the tap on the grounded terminal bus in each service disconnect.

The bonding jumper you circled is to bond the nipple. Service bonding has more stringent requirements and regular locknuts are not acceptable. Follow a fault back at any point and it cant travel solely through a regular locknut on its way to the grounded conductor.
 
In multi tenant buildings, I have always used bused gutters, then have the individual metered panels connected to it, with a main fused disconnect.
 
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