314.16 (1) confused

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If wires pull straight thru a junction box (no splices), do they still count as one conductor each, or all count as one conductor? For example would 6 #12's count as 13.50 or 2.25? Im having brain freeze...
 
chicago_sparky said:
If wires pull straight thru a junction box (no splices), do they still count as one conductor each, or all count as one conductor? For example would 6 #12's count as 13.50 or 2.25? Im having brain freeze...
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They would total 13.5 cubic inches.
 
Minuteman said:
They would total 13.5 cubic inches.
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Correct. Now, if you were to create foot-long loops (i.e., 6" or more to each side of the center of the loop), you'd have to count them as two each (i.e., 27 cu.in.)
 
Michael, 314.16(B)(1)

(B) (1) Conductor Fill Each conductor that originates outside the box and terminates or is spliced within the box shall be counted once, and each conductor that passes through the box without splice or termination shall be counted once. A looped, unbroken conductor not less than twice the minimum length required for free conductors in 300.14 shall be counted twice. The conductor fill shall be calculated using Table 314.16(B). A conductor, no part of which leaves the box, shall not be counted.

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LarryFine said:
Correct. Now, if you were to create foot-long loops (i.e., 6" or more to each side of the center of the loop), you'd have to count them as two each (i.e., 27 cu.in.)
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314.16(B)(1)
 
Gee, Larry, we would have had to wait all that time for your answer. Surely we didn't steal your thunder did we. :D

Roger
 
roger said:
Gee, Larry, we would have had to wait all that time for your answer. Surely we didn't steal your thunder did we. :D
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No, you didn't.

" . . . and don't call me Shirley!" ~ Dr. Rumack in Airplane!
 
Actually, when you two were posting this, I was on an emergency call; a building that had no power. The first thing I did was check the electronic meter for a display. There was no meter. Well, it was there, but it was on the ground, face up.

The meter base was one of those old, deep ones that are half base and half front cover. It has a square locked box that covers just the meter itself. I'm not sure what happened, but my guess is that someone stepped on the box to try to get on the roof.

The tag was still intact, with the front cover hanging down from it. I checked for signs of heat or other damage, just in case it was because someone saw a fire or something. (There's no external disconnect.) I also checked the service equipment.

I went ahead and plugged the meter back in and everything checked out: line-to-ground, line-to-line, etc. I suppose it's possible a truck bumped into it, being behind the building in the parking area, but there was no sign of contact. I billed them double-time and came home and got back in bed.

Then I got back up just to check on this thread. What, you don't believe me? :p;)
 
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