4 receptacles maximum per SABC?

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jeff48356 said:
I was just watching a video on kitchen wiring (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KyH7SK98HM), and the guy (starting at 7:16) said that only 4 receptacles are allowed per SABC. Where is the Code reference to that? I know I've had 5 or 6 before, and have always passed inspections.
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Guy is a moron. Love the “Dine room” part!

Now certain manufacturers did limit the number of receptacles that could be downstream of a GFCI when they first came out, but that is it. Code never restricted the number per GFCI or SABC wise.
 
Where this might have gotten started is with some GFCI receptacle mfg. instructions they list a maximum number of receptacles to be fed from a GFCI receptacle. I've never adhered to it nor have I ever seen an inspector question it.
Now I don't know the number for the max or which mfg it was, but I have seen those instructions.

Other than the NEC rule on following mfg instructions/listings, there is no limit per the NEC.

ETA: Dang it, shouldn't leave a post "unreplied" and expect someone won't have already give your reply.
Way to go Jumpy!
 
Little Bill said:
Where this might have gotten started is with some GFCI receptacle mfg. instructions they list a maximum number of receptacles to be fed from a GFCI receptacle. I've never adhered to it nor have I ever seen an inspector question it.
Now I don't know the number for the max or which mfg it was, but I have seen those instructions.

Other than the NEC rule on following mfg instructions/listings, there is no limit per the NEC.

ETA: Dang it, shouldn't leave a post "unreplied" and expect someone won't have already give your reply.
Way to go Jumpy!
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IIRC, one manufacturer had a limit of 6(?) at one time.

I never really paid attention either, I think it was a silly way to try and limit accumulated leakage of multiple loads that caused nuisance tripping or such. IDK. Maybe customer complaints.

PS: Me like “jumpy”. Larry used to call me that. I always figured it was because I tend to jump to conclusions when posting.:D
 
jumper said:
“You are banned to Heck” ala Dilbert.:D
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You mean Phil, the Prince of Insufficient Light?

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mmm... No limit in USA NEC... Limit of three outlet points per circuit in Jamaica... No limit that I have seen in the UK.
USA has best rules of thumb for placement of outlets in a kitchen and the wiring is pretty straightforward.

Question I have is, How many of you wire individual GFCI outlets in a kitchen in parallel or do you just wire one in and use regular old fashioned sockets off the load? I have seen it both ways, and just wonder how many prefer to not use the load ability of the outlets?
 
Adamjamma said:
mmm... No limit in USA NEC... Limit of three outlet points per circuit in Jamaica... No limit that I have seen in the UK.
USA has best rules of thumb for placement of outlets in a kitchen and the wiring is pretty straightforward.

Question I have is, How many of you wire individual GFCI outlets in a kitchen in parallel or do you just wire one in and use regular old fashioned sockets off the load? I have seen it both ways, and just wonder how many prefer to not use the load ability of the outlets?
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We use the load of the GFCI. Only place we might not is where the customer has lots of $$$ to spend or to isolate items from others.
 
There are some areas of the country that have a similar rule... no more than 2 receptacles on a small appliance branch circuit. Not NEC but a local amendment..
 
WLl, think I am gonna put in a request that it be upgraded to five plus gfci if gfci outlet is used in kitchen.. I mean, they are asking us what changes we think are needed... lol... as part of how do we adopt the NEC with the other codes already in use...
 
Sorry.. current code in Jamaica... three outlets per circuit in kitchen and dining areas...
they are asking electricians to submit ideas for what might need changed in current code to upgrade and use NEC... such as what needs adapted in NEC for use in country...
And what should be kept from old codes...

so, would propose, based on idea that some manufacturers suggest no more than five regular outlets on load of gfci, and the fact that RCD in UK seems to suggest no more than five circuits protected by one RCD...

Would submit request that they allow up to five outlets after the GFCI outlet as the allowable in kitchens per kitchen circuit, rather than the current three outlet restriction... which would double the amount of outlets allowed in a kitchen using two circuits and would cut down on the use of extensions in kitchens while also giving more residents a reason to add gfci to their home voluntarily... if you have a gfci outlet as first outlet from the breaker panel then you can have five regular outlets attached to the load side otherwise restriction of three stays in place..lol...or something to that effect..l
 
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