400 hz xfmr

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It seems I may be in the market for one or more good-sized three phase 400 Hertz Transformers. I'm not real familiar with 400 Hertz Transformers. I know at least a couple people ask about 400 hurts now and then I thought maybe some one would have a favorite 400 Hertz Transformer vendor. They will probably be about two hundred KVA 3 phase.
 
Bob,
I had to do a GSE project (Ground Support Equipment; i.e. for airports) years ago and used a company called Quality Transformer & Electronics (QTE) here in California. They specialize in building transformers for specialized applications, mostly for the Semiconductor industry, so they do HF transformers all the time. Their website is QTE.com, but seems to be down. Here is a Linked-In site for them, and the GM is someone I am linked to on L-I, showing he is still there. So it's likely just a problem with their website or server. I drove by there a few months ago, they were going strong.
https://www.linkedin.com/company/quality-transformer-and-electronics/
 
It's been MANY years, but a Fortune 50 company had the folks I worked for use Olsun (www.olsun.com) for drive isolation transformers. Our application was 60Hz, but my memory, what's left of it, is that they did high frequency stuff, including power audio for radio transmitters.
 
400 Hz transformers are smaller for the same kVA. If you operate a 400Hz transformer at 60Hz but with the same supply voltage, then you will push the core into hard saturation and excessive current will flow, letting out the magic smoke.

When a transformer is operating, current in the coils generates magnetic flux in the core. Since you have _changing_ current (AC) you have _changing_ flux, and this changing flux induces voltage in the coils. This voltage opposes the applied terminal voltage, and is what limits the current flow. Once the flux reaches the point that the magnetic core gets saturated, then the changing current causes much less change in flux, and thus much less opposing voltage...the result being much greater current flow.

The key number is the 'volt-second' product, how many volts are applied for how much time. The greater the volt-second product the more core you need to carry flux.

At 400 Hz the cycles are shorter, so for the same voltage the volt-second product is smaller, and so you can get a way with a smaller magnetic core, or fewer turns of wire. This makes the transformer smaller and lighter. The same applies to motors, and the smaller hardware is the reason that 400 Hz is used in aircraft.

So you can use a 400 Hz transformer at 60Hz, but only if you reduce the voltage by 6/40. You get fewer kVA out of the same mass of copper and iron.

There are secondary differences, for example you have more eddy current losses and thus need thinner laminations in the 400 Hz transformer, and other small details.

-Jon
 
Belated thank you for the explanation Jon. I take it that a Transformer is designed for 60 hertz would work fine at 400 Hertz it would just be massively oversized?
 
Belated thank you for the explanation Jon. I take it that a Transformer is designed for 60 hertz would work fine at 400 Hertz it would just be massively oversized?
Not necessarily. As mentioned, the core laminations would have to be thinner to get the same reduction of eddy current effects.
And there might need to be additional design elements such as an inter winding shield to reduce capacitive coupling.

It would work, though, and with the nominal voltage ratio based on turn count.

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