4ft Light fixture without j box.

[brother]

We found some old work in buildings where they did not use j boxes and it appears to be romex in a commercial building .
I have always used a box , and made sure I had an opening on the 4ft fixture led or florescent for the box behind it.

someone asked me was it a code violation to not have a box for these type of set ups. I do not find a violation right off hand , but it's just more convenient to me to have a box so i wont have issues when changing out the fixture in the future.

most of these are led lights that someone did and no cut out for box behind them for those that dont have proper romex connection.

I dont like the not having a bix, but is it a code violation, assuming they use the correct romex connector to the led light fixture.

If I recall right, I think they can also get away with romex in commercial buildings so long as it's under 4 stories. Even though I dont like.

 

[infinity]

Nothing wrong with bringing the cable directly into the fixture unless it's somehow designed and listed to only mount to a box. Most ballasted or driver style fixtures have a requirement for 90°C conductors when within 3" of the driver or ballast. Modern NM has 90°C conductors so that's not an issue.

 

[roger]

The three floor limit for NM was removed awhile back but there are concessions.

 

[jap]

You're better off "not" using a J-box behind the fixture since if you did install one you'd probably have to pull a big honkin hole in your fixture to provide access to it.

JAP>

 

[readydave8]

The three floor limit for NM was removed awhile back but there are concessions.

Not above suspended ceiling?

 

[tom baker]

You're better off "not" using a J-box behind the fixture since if you did install one you'd probably have to pull a big honkin hole in your fixture to provide access to it.

JAP>

Not having an access hole in a Fl luminaire mounted over an J box is a common violation. I have seen electricians having to take down a long row of luminares to punch holes.

 

[farmantenna]

It's actually a 410 code violation without access hole