517.13

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I have an inspector who believes all branch circuits feeding light fixtures over a Patient Vicinity area has to be in hard pipe.

My installation consist of 1/2" flex with steel connectors ,6' in length with hot,neutral & ground #12 wires inside.

I have referred him to 517.13 A & B , 517.30-3 exception #5 and 250.118


Can anyone send me a copy of the comments from the N.E.C.Handbook following 517.13(b)
I would like to show him this as well.

Thank you
Craig
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Re: 517.13

From the 2002 Edition of the NFPA NEC Handbook:

"The requirements in 517.13(B) cover the second component of the redundant grounding approach. An insulated, copper, equipment grounding conductor sized in accordance with 250.122 must be installed with the branch-circuit conductors in the wiring method that meets the provisions of 517.13(A). The conductor can be either solid or stranded. It is not required to run a separate, insulated equipment grounding conductor to the branch-circuit panelboard where the feeder wiring method is recognized as an equipment grounding conductor per 250.18, or the feeder wiring method contains an equipment grounding conductor.

The grounding requirements of 517.13 for patient care areas are not limited to hospitals. They are also required for patient care areas in other health care facilities, such as nursing homes, clinics, medical and dental offices, and so on.

Exception No. 1 to 517.13(B) permits metal faceplates to be grounded by means of the metal mounting screws rather than by having a separate equipment grounding conductor or bonding jumper run to the metal plate. See 404.9(B), which requires switches and their metal faceplates to be effectively grounded.

Exception No. 2 to 517.13(B) exempts luminaires mounted 71/2 ft above the floor and switches located outside of the patient vicinity from redundant grounding requirements because it is unlikely that the patient or attendants will contact these items and the patient at the same time. The patient vicinity space consists of a volume 6 ft horizontally in all directions from the bed and up to a height of 71/2 ft above the floor."

Keep in mind that the notes in the handbook do not carry as much weight as a FPN and that a FPN is not enforceable. :D
 
Re: 517.13

Thank you Charlie for you quick response.
I believe I need to be a little more clear,
The inspector I'm dealing with is not an Electrical inspector , instead he is a TDH inspector (Texas Department of Health).However he has done some homework concerning the electrical end of his inspection, I have made copies of the codes that I mention in my previous post. I do not have the N.E.C. Handbook and I thought that if I gave him a copy of what the comments said it would become more clear.
He seems to be more be asking than telling.
Thank again
Craig :)
 
Re: 517.13

Craig to go along with Charlie's post, go to this page, the second page has an excellent graphic.

The author, Gaylen Rodgers is a member of CMP 17.

Roger

[ October 08, 2004, 08:44 PM: Message edited by: roger ]
 
Re: 517.13

Thanks Charlie
Thanks Roger, for all the good info ,I'll pass it along to him.
It's so nice being able to ask for professional help in any area of the electrical field and getting the info I need and a better understanding of the N.E.C.at the same time.
Because of this forum all installation I do are much more professionally done.

This forum was long over due ,and now its like a fax or cell phone, I don't know how I ever got along with out it.
Thanks again
Craig :)
 
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