A beautiful MC job. . . .not really. .

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charlie said:
:mad: I hope you don't paint all electric utility guys with the same sloppy brush! :mad:​

From the electric utility side, I have dealt with some pretty poor electrical contractors, as you guys know. There are some very good linemen and other employees who are good licensed electricians. For what it is worth, I have never worked in the Line Department but I did hold a Master Electricians License (Block & Assoc. exam) in Indianapolis and I do know a little about the trade. ;) :cool:
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actually i was painting most guys the same, but with the "if it's free, it's for me" part:D
 
charlie said:
:mad: I hope you don't paint all electric utility guys with the same sloppy brush! :mad:​

From the electric utility side, I have dealt with some pretty poor electrical contractors, as you guys know. There are some very good linemen and other employees who are good licensed electricians. For what it is worth, I have never worked in the Line Department but I did hold a Master Electricians License (Block & Assoc. exam) in Indianapolis and I do know a little about the trade. ;) :cool:
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You could be right, I have just never seen it... ;) :grin:
 
I guess they don't need battery backup on the alarm panel. :confused:

And they must have been on a real budget because they only used one screw to hold it in. :roll:
 
peter d said:
I guess they don't need battery backup on the alarm panel. :confused:

And they must have been on a real budget because they only used one screw to hold it in. :roll:
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nah, they just tilted it to keep the electricity from falling out...
 
Karl H said:
Looking at these pictures I can't help but, think. Art.330 is only 2 pages long front and back. You would think SOMEONE on the job would have read it,like maybe the OWNER of the company. I can hear it now,"Hey Bob!, these plugs are faulty,the holes are too small to back stab!" (if they even used #12 MC)
I hope the church only paid a 1/4 of the price an honest EC would charge.Then learned the age old lesson,"You get what you pay for."
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Most churches try to get it free first.They looked for low bidder and got just what they paid for.My problem with this install is the inspector.Was he a member ?
 
Jim W in Tampa said:
Most churches try to get it free first.They looked for low bidder and got just what they paid for.My problem with this install is the inspector.Was he a member ?
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I don't think he is. I go here every now and then (its an hour away) and I've never seen him there. But that really doesn't matter in this town; everyone knows everyone. They didn't get it free; it was t&m.
 
brantmacga said:
I don't think he is. I go here every now and then (its an hour away) and I've never seen him there. But that really doesn't matter in this town; everyone knows everyone. They didn't get it free; it was t&m.
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Perhaps they are a bit too trusting in god.He will never stop you from doing wrong things,he will guide you into doing things right if your willing.
 
I think what it boils down to is none of the contractors working on the job had any experience in this area. The GC is a residential builder; no commercial. He did the oversight job for free. Same story w/ the EC, strictly residential. The HVAC guys knew what they were doing, and the plumbing works just fine. I remember when they were first starting the electrical rough, the EC had 'wowed' everyone with the fact that the building was "getting its own transformer!". It was an exciting time.

Here's an example of inexperience:

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This portico is probably 25'-30' to the peak. It is lined with about a dozen lithonia lcp 6" recessed lights (residential line) w/ BR35 65w bulbs. Yeh, its pretty dark under there! All the lighting was spec'd by the EC.
 
brantmacga said:
This portico is probably 25'-30' to the peak. It is lined with about a dozen lithonia lcp 6" recessed lights (residential line) w/ BR35 65w bulbs. Yeh, its pretty dark under there! All the lighting was spec'd by the EC.
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ooops....I guess he's never heard of metal halide recesed huh?
 
peter d said:
ooops....I guess he's never heard of metal halide recesed huh?
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i really don't know what they were thinking. I pointed it out to someone during the rough-in stage but it wasn't considered an issue i guess.
 
I think he knew better than that. The parking lot lights are on timers; sunday and wednesday nights only! :)
 
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