A Darwin Experiment

[cowboyjwc]

You can't stop someone from putting a raido next to the tub any more than you can stop hardware stores from selling extension cords. Move the recept between the two sinks, if there are two sinks, and you still have a chance for the radio to be a problem.

 

[ericsherman37]

How about common sense?

Legal or not, that is an accident waiting to happen.

Never underestimate the power of natural selection!

Here's a thought... let's suppose that a similar bathtub/radio situation existed in some parallel universe where GFCI protection was not required in bathrooms. If the tub occupant is reclining in a pool of water in one of those fiberglass (or whatever it is) tubs, in which the only metal thing contacting the water is the drain hardware, which is connected to PVC plumbing (not grounded, basically) and the radio fell in, but magically submerged itself only to the point of where the hot terminal was underwater and the neutral was still in the air, would that person get shocked? I imagine in such a situation they would only get energized to 120 volts but not being grounded they wouldn't have any current flow.

Maybe someone should propose a code change requiring buoyant radios and toasters.

 

[tomspark1]

Things could be worse

 

[pfalcon]

Is that what your quote is? You seem to have taken liberty with my "quotes".

I humbly submit to you that "bathtub" might well be a one-word term meaning bathtub, and that "shower stall" might be a two-word term meaning shower stall.

I do know that when I use my bathroom, which has a tub, but no shower or wand, that I get into the bathtub. . . I do not get into the bathtub stall.

Hmm, my quote is "A rose by any other name is tax deductible." Although the only liberty I took with yours was to snip it down to what seemed relevant.

I do accept your submission. By English usage "A or B C" is legitimately interpreted as either "A C or B C" or as "B C or A". The first interpretation is barely more dominant but not enough so to preclude the second. The NEC should have cleared the language up by saying either "bathtub stall or shower stall" or by saying "shower stall or bathtub". By using the double word first you prevent the single word from being interpreted as an adjective.

By the way, I get into a shower not a shower stall; even when the shower is in the stall; And I do use stall kits to surround bathtubs that have no shower.

But then if they phrased it in an unambiguous order we would have nothing to play with on this forum. :grin:

 

[al hildenbrand]

the only liberty I took with yours was to snip it down to what seemed relevant.

Ah, so. . . the Forum Reply software must be moving the colors and sentence fragments, then. :roll:

I get into a shower not a shower stall; even when the shower is in the stall; And I do use stall kits to surround bathtubs that have no shower.

:grin:

But then if they phrased it in an unambiguous order we would have nothing to play with on this forum. :grin:

True, that!!!