Above ground pool bonding

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Hey Guys, I just got a permit package for an above ground pool project.....

I have always bonded above ground pools with a single #8 connecting the pump motor, heater, ladder (if metal), and the metal pool frame at one point. Never had this fail .


The attached drawing was given to me by the county. It leaves me with more questions than answers.
1) How do I "bond" the water? All the piping is going to be non metallic
2) Am I understanding that the bonding as shown on the attached drawing is EITHER a ring around the pool and equipment, OR the bonding of each piece to the other, and finally to the pool frame.


TY, Howard
 

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There are plumbing fittings that are made to be installed near the pump circulations pipes that will bond the water.

Here is one example. You can search and see many other designs.

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Dennis,

Thank you for the water bonding info. Last pool I did was in 2018 (I think ), and that wasnt required in that area.

Now as to the second question are you seeing the bonding diagram as an either or ... It looks to be worded that way... What is your take?


Howard
 
g-and-h_electric said:
Dennis,

Thank you for the water bonding info. Last pool I did was in 2018 (I think ), and that wasnt required in that area.

Now as to the second question are you seeing the bonding diagram as an either or ... It looks to be worded that way... What is your take?


Howard
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There are two bonding methods. The optional one (single #8 encircling the pool) is supposed to be used if you can't comply with the standard method, such as, there was no rebar in the pool or deck. Also if there was no grid installed. You still would have to run jumpers from the #8 to the equipment and any metal on/in the pool. If the shell is conductive, then you are supposed to hit the pool at 4 points equally spaced around the pool. An above ground pool would most likely require the optional method.

The water bond requirement has been around since at least the 2008 Code.
 
There are several free videos on mikeholt.com that talk about pool bonding. I've watched all of them and I remember that the single wire encircling the pool was highly criticized. I don't want to get too specific because it's been over a year since I watched them and I don't want to put my foot in my mouth.
 
Buck Parrish said:
While were on pools. I have a question.
Is a general use outlet required for an above ground pool with 42 in. max water depth?
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According to the code, any pool 42" or greater in depth. has to be treated like an inground or permenant pool. and those require the general use receptacle.
Having said that, I've never installed one for general use if there wasn't a deck there, most don't want one. I usually only install one for the pump. Inspectors have never said anything.
Now I have installed some that had decking or the customer asked for one.
 
I haven’t done an above ground pool in 10 years, but I used a product called Bondsafe 480 or something like that. It’s a metal plate that goes in the skimmer with a bonding lug. The guy that made it was a member here.


Edit…. So it’s bondsafe 680, duh… and here’s a link


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I've got one to do that is below 42 inches. That's why I was wondering about the convenience receptacle. When kids have wet feet. You sure don't want extension cords running across the yard.
 
Buck Parrish said:
I've got one to do that is below 42 inches. That's why I was wondering about the convenience receptacle. When kids have wet feet. You sure don't want extension cords running across the yard.
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Part III of art. 680 doesn't require a receptacle however if there is one within 20' then it must be gfci protected
 
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