Above ground swimming pool.. Voltage drop and convenience outlet

[Marknewjersey]

Hi guys

150 of run.. From panel to to the outlet for the pump for the swimming pool above ground .. Do we need to go by the voltage drop code.. I.e. Should we use #10 since it's a long run or #12 will do the job to pass inspection.

2. Can we use the same circuit of the pump for the convenience outlet by the pool

Thank you

 

[tom baker]

1. There is no code requirement for voltage drop, only an info note. But voltage drop creates heat and the customer pays for that.
2. Maybe. How many amps is pump and what voltage?
Why not run an extra 2 wires for receptacle?

 

[Dsg319]

Hi guys

150 of run.. From panel to to the outlet for the pump for the swimming pool above ground .. Do we need to go by the voltage drop code.. I.e. Should we use #10 since it's a long run or #12 will do the job to pass inspection.

2. Can we use the same circuit of the pump for the convenience outlet by the pool

Thank you

Idk the answer to your second question. But voltage drop is only a recommendation of the NEC.
So therefor I would recommend doing a voltage drop calculation. Another thing to keep in mind is when your not within voltage drop recommendations, it will probably take longer to clear ground faults leaving conductive surfaces energized longer. So I would do a calculation or get a good app to throw your numbers in and check.

 

[Marknewjersey]

1. There is no code requirement for voltage drop, only an info note. But voltage drop creates heat and the customer pays for that.
2. Maybe. How many amps is pump and what voltage?
Why not run an extra 2 wires for receptacle?

The number 12 wire for 12 gauge is good if I run two wires

 

[don_resqcapt19]

The number 12 wire for 12 gauge is good if I run two wires

As in two conductors connected in parallel? You can only do that for conductor sizes 1/0 and larger.

 

[tom baker]

The number 12 wire for 12 gauge is good if I run two wires

To clarify, 2 wires, hot and neutral.

 

[ptonsparky]

VD upon a ground fault should not be a concern IF you are using GFCI protection on those circuits. I believe they are a requirement for your pool equipment and outlet.

Idk the answer to your second question. But voltage drop is only a recommendation of the NEC.
So therefor I would recommend doing a voltage drop calculation. Another thing to keep in mind is when your not within voltage drop recommendations, it will probably take longer to clear ground faults leaving conductive surfaces energized longer. So I would do a calculation or get a good app to throw your numbers in and check.

 

[Dsg319]

VD upon a ground fault should not be a concern IF you are using GFCI protection on those circuits. I believe they are a requirement for your pool equipment and outlet.

Very True I never thought about GFCI protection to be there anyways.

 

[kwired]

The number 12 wire for 12 gauge is good if I run two wires

It probably won't work if you only run one wire