Has anyone seen these ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) pool lifts that are apparently are required to be installed in public pools. This is a requirement under the statute according to the Hotel GM I'm working for. Anyhow, this device basically mounts to the edge of the pool and lowers and raises someone into or out of the pool. Think of an arm with a chair on the side that dips into the water. This thing runs on a rechargeable 24V battery. I'm thinking all I need to do is bond the metal base back to the bonding grid somewhere. Does that sound about right?
ADA Pool Lift
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That is correct.
An interesting development locally has been where the facility is required to install the lift on older pool installations and there is no apparent bonding grid.
I'm unsure how the rules in 680.26 have changed over the years, but apparently some older pools have no bonding point for the new lifts. Now does the owner need to install a bonding grid conforming to 680.26 ?
I'm unsure how the rules in 680.26 have changed over the years, but apparently some older pools have no bonding point for the new lifts. Now does the owner need to install a bonding grid conforming to 680.26 ?
north star
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I say "Yes !"....Also, the actual location of the Pool Lift might be an
issue as well, if it is installed in the wrong location, ...possibly
affecting / altering the Means of Egress in the Pool Areas.
**jes25**, ...I strongly recommend that you have a registered
design professional [ an RDP ] involved in your installation project.
There's more involved than just connection of some wires [ i.e. -
maneuvering clearances, ...the proper type of Pool Lift = one that
is actually ADA/Accessible compliant, etc. ]
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According to Article 680.26(B)(2) & Section 3403.1 in the `06 IBC,
I say "Yes !"....Also, the actual location of the Pool Lift might be an
issue as well, if it is installed in the wrong location, ...possibly
affecting / altering the Means of Egress in the Pool Areas.
**jes25**, ...I strongly recommend that you have a registered
design professional [ an RDP ] involved in your installation project.
There's more involved than just connection of some wires [ i.e. -
maneuvering clearances, ...the proper type of Pool Lift = one that
is actually ADA/Accessible compliant, etc. ]
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I agree, but that stuff would be the owners problem. He is coordinating and designing the project. Thanks for the input though, if I get a chance I will point that out to him
This pool is about 25 years old and I had the same thought. They are going to cut a hole in the concrete deck to install the base. I doubt they will find a bonding wire there, but perhaps rebar. If they find rebar I thought about just bonding to that. Otherwise they will cut a trench back to the equipment room and I will tie in at the pump. I think I would be most comfortable bonding to the pump because that is obviously part of the bonding sysytem, but I'd hate to cut make them cut more concrete than needed.
north star
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jes25,
Relying on the owner to have a compliant installation would
not be recommended, IMO!.......If an ADA/Accessibility
lawsuit comes about, who do you think will be named as a
party to it? [ Hint: You! For knowing, or should have known
about the ADA requirements.....And you DO know! ]......You
CAN walk away from the job ya know!
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jes25,
Relying on the owner to have a compliant installation would
not be recommended, IMO!.......If an ADA/Accessibility
lawsuit comes about, who do you think will be named as a
party to it? [ Hint: You! For knowing, or should have known
about the ADA requirements.....And you DO know! ]......You
CAN walk away from the job ya know!
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david
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Do you know of any case that the US. Department of Justice went after any contractor for non-compliance with the American with disabilities act.
When a permit is pulled through our department here. We administer the provision of the state law we have no jurisdiction over a federal statute.
I would think the only party that would be part, of a complaint filled would be the owner not the contractor
When a permit is pulled through our department here. We administer the provision of the state law we have no jurisdiction over a federal statute.
I would think the only party that would be part, of a complaint filled would be the owner not the contractor
Gregg Harris
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I would disagree with you, in so fare as the requirements if you read it carefully it uses the repeated statement "within reason" implying that to meet all current code requirements would not be required. It would equate to digging up the foundation to a structure and busting the footer to obtain the UFER to tie back to the mane panel.
david
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I would think that the metal could be bonded to the bonding grid with-in reason. Someone posted that the pool was about twenty five years old, if bonded according to code in that period other metal structures ( railing for steps) (ladder) would be bonded together. What is commonly done here is a bond is run by etching a joint and following that to a bonded metal after the bond is made epoxy is cocked over the bond wire leaving a nice finish.
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