Adding a outlet in on a wall that once was a hallway.

[Ohms law]

Would I have to add a outlet on a wall that was once a hallway now a living room wall? Iam only here to add can lights , arc fault protection and a four-way switch.

 

[starbolin]

Would I have to add a outlet on a wall that was once a hallway now a living room wall? Iam only here to add can lights , arc fault protection and a four-way switch.

Has the wall covering been removed? If the wall has been opened then your AHJ can require any code upgrades. Some jurisdictions have a dollar level above which upgrades are required.

 

[ptonsparky]

I would suggest it. Better now than later for both of you.

 

[Sierrasparky]

Would I have to add a outlet on a wall that was once a hallway now a living room wall? Iam only here to add can lights , arc fault protection and a four-way switch.

More info is necessary.
How was this once a hallway?
If this was remodeld and new use then I would say you need to add what ever is now code for your area. Left alone no code requirements.

 

[Ohms law]

There are no walls opened. Basically the homeowners took out a bedroom and made there living room larger.

 

[Ohms law]

Took down two walls to make there living room longer. One wall of the bedroom was defined this area as a hallway now it's removed the hall way is now shorter, leaving a greater than two foot wall space. No walls are opened up and there are no plans to do so either.

 

[Sierrasparky]

Took down two walls to make there living room longer. One wall of the bedroom was defined this area as a hallway now it's removed the hall way is now shorter, leaving a greater than two foot wall space. No walls are opened up and there are no plans to do so either.

They took a wall out . then you need to make it code as the area is new use.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

IMO you have changed what was a hallway into a room and for that reason you would have to make it to code.

 

[Ohms law]

That's what I thought I just wanted a reassurance.

 

[GoldDigger]

Is this all part of one project with one set of permits?
If the structural part was done and inspected before the electrical permit was pulled you may not be required to go back and correct it.
It is not an immediate safety hazard and the new work is not making the non-compliance worse.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

There was no compliance issue until the wall was taken down. Now the other side of the hall is part of a bedroom. So you will have 3 walls in compliance but the forth wall is not.

We had a similar situation. There was a detached structure that was one room and wired for music groups to play in- it had a panel in the room , no heat etc. Now the owner made it an apt. They built a bathroom in one corner. It was the opinion of the inspector as well as myself that even though the walls were up they did not comply to the new situation and it had to be upgraded. A kitchen was going in one corner with no new walls. We could not leave it as it was wired.

My point is if you change it then it should comply. If the wall was already there with no outlets then Imo you would not need to add them.

 

[north star]

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Ohms law,

When you applied for & obtained the permit from the local AHJ,
what did they say about your submitted plans or Scope of Work
for this project ? :huh:

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[Ohms law]

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Ohms law,

When you applied for & obtained the permit from the local AHJ,
what did they say about your submitted plans or Scope of Work
for this project ? :huh:

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For a situtation like this we just do the work and call in for inspection, then the inspector looks for proper AFCI protection and test the device that's about it.

So when someone adds can lights we just call in for a rough-in/final.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

I would agree that adding new outlets may not be necessary if that wall was taken out a long time ago. If you were called in to add lights to this existing room then IMO you do not have to upgrade the receptacles

 

[Ponchik]

So, if you just call for "can lights" the inspector will not inspect the remodeled area and will not ask about the missing receptacles?

Added:
IMO, a good inspector will ask for proper receptacle placement and for AFCI, even though you are installing can lights.

 

[Ohms law]

I have remodeled entire houses before and its a little different. We will call for rough-in inspections as needed per GENERAL CONTRACTOR. For the final inspection the inspector will test AFCI breakers, GFCI'S, and put his plug-in tester in every receptacle to check for correctly polarity.

The only time you would have to submit a change of plans/ review of plans is for a commercial job, new or old construction.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

So, if you just call for "can lights" the inspector will not inspect the remodeled area and will not ask about the missing receptacles?

Added:
IMO, a good inspector will ask for proper receptacle placement and for AFCI, even though you are installing can lights.

This is assuming the remo work is being done at the same time. I agree if that is the case- the inspector should pick up on it.