Advice on correct starter coil for my 3 phase 208/230 volt air compressor with 200 amp service

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pcdoc2001

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Hello, I am an electronic technician and automotive technician but I have some struggles with my building current which is 208/230 volt 200 amp service utilizing a "wild leg" on my B pole. (measuring from line 1 to any other leg is 240 volts, the same goes from line 2 or 3 to any other line. Measuring line 2 to neutral is 208 volts.) Again, in automotive electronics most of my a/c voltage is measured in millivolts so I apologize in advance if my terminology isn't correct and i have no wishes to put up a "potato" post.
I have a large air compressor for my little shop that uses a 25 hp 3 phase motor which is labeled 60 amp. It is equipped with a Allen Bradley Starter MEMA Size 2 509-COD Contactor. When I purchased the unit it was wired for 480v 3 phase. I changed the wiring in the entrance box, ( I know there's another name for that frustrating little box that my 12 wire compressor uses), and I changed the 480 volt starter coil to a genuine Allen-Bradley 240 volt starter coil.
I wired it all up, said a small prayer, and the unit ran great for 6 moths never getting very hot and running great. Then my starter coil died. I gave it a small funeral and replaced it with another 240 volt Allen-Bradley coil. I purchased another coil of the exact same part number and it has also lasted 6 moths. The power company, through regular maintenance, has recently replaced all of the service wires literally from the power plant to my shop. They also ran a new service wire to my meter. I told them of the issues that I had with my compressor and they checked the service with their equipment and said that it was working properly. They also checked my wiring in the building and offered me a job. Saying that everything looked perfect.
In trying to figure out why I was having issues with the starter coil, I researched Google, (we all know how reliable google is), and google AI states that on 230/208 3 phase that I should use a 208 volt starter coil. This makes no sense to me because I measure 230 volts line to line in my service panel and at the compressor. I am using #6 AWG fine copper wire at a distance of 19 feet, so I shouldn't have much of a voltage drop.
I know that this post is rather long-winded but I wanted to give as much detail as I know in order to ask properly.
 
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I’m not going to reopen this, but your original starter had a 120V coil, which would have (should have) been powered from A or C phase and neutral. If it was powered from B phase and neutral, it would burn up.

You replaced that with a 240V coil, which unless you changed your ENTIRE control circuit to 240V with no connection to neutral would mean you were connecting it to either 120V again, or 208V, neither of which was appropriate.

This is all evidence that you didn’t know what you were doing and should have left this to a qualified electrician.
 
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