Altivar 61 VFD

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I have an Altivar 61 that will only run in by-pass mode. My customer told me that an overheat fault came up a couple days ago and tripped the drive. Since then it will only run in By-pass mode. What is the best direction in trouble shooting?
 
I have an Altivar 61 that will only run in by-pass mode. My customer told me that an overheat fault came up a couple days ago and tripped the drive. Since then it will only run in By-pass mode. What is the best direction in trouble shooting?

probably the best place to start is with the manual in the troubleshooting section.

since this is a VFD and you refer to a bypass mode, that implies there is a set of bypass contactors that has been added for use when the thing is in fault mode.

If you can't reset the fault, the drive is probably fried and should be repaired or replaced.
 
I have an Altivar 61 that will only run in by-pass mode. My customer told me that an overheat fault came up a couple days ago and tripped the drive. Since then it will only run in By-pass mode. What is the best direction in trouble shooting?

??? A drives specialist for Square D drives is asking random people on the Internet for help in debugging a Square D drive?

How are you related to the electrical industry?:
Drives Specialist for Square D drives and soft starts for CED.
 
??? A drives specialist for Square D drives is asking random people on the Internet for help in debugging a Square D drive?

LOL... :slaphead:

True story; I once was sent to Schneider's "Drives University" for a week long training program because my company was going to change to brand labeling the Altivar 71 drives. The program was actually for Schneider internal and distributor drive specialists, but because ours was going to be a brand label deal, they had me go. To get in, I had to take an entry exam and the exam was full of very specific questions about old Square D and Telemecanique drives, meaning if you were NOT a long time user, you were not going to know these things. Things like "If a customer has an old Square D OmegaPack drive and wants a Modbus TCP/IP interface for it, what Modicon comm card would they need to use?" Consequently, I was forced to SWAG most of the questions and I ended up getting a score of 55% on the test. I assumed I had failed.

Turns out,, this was the TOP SCORE in the entire country at that time! So of all of their internal and distributor VFD specialists, none of them scored more than 55% on their entry exam for the training program...
 
All that aside, one common thing you will read from many of us here is that VFDs are really good at finding problems that less sophisticated devices, like basic overload relays, will let slip by. So it's entirely possible that the VFD was seeing something that it knows will result in motor (or VFD) damage and it tripped off line to prevent it, but the OL relay in your bypass setup is nowhere near as accurate, so it will wait until the failure is more "complete", kind of like an idiot light. And of course, this ASSUMES that your bypass system even INCLUDES an overload relay. I see a LOT of people who don't catch that detail and just use a manual bypass switch to jump around the drive. That's not going to meet Code, and the MFR (assuming it was Sq. D) would not have done that for sure. But when people "roll their own", they do all kinds of goofy things.

Also, in the VFD world, "Overload" can mean MOTOR overload, or DRIVE overload. In the Altivars, if they just have the cheap little 7 segment LED display and not the nice LCD full text display, you have to read the "code" on the display. For example, "OHF" means DRIVE over heat, "OLC" means PROCESS overload, "OLF" means MOTOR over load, and "OCF" means over CURRENT, which is different than over LOAD. Of all of those, the "OCF" fault is the only one that looks like an "Overload" and cannot be reset automatically, meaning someone must actually find the problem and fix it. OCF can be triggered for example by someone trying to over aggressively accelerate, which means the motor tries to draw more current than the drive can deliver safely.
 
I have an Altivar 61 that will only run in by-pass mode. My customer told me that an overheat fault came up a couple days ago and tripped the drive. Since then it will only run in By-pass mode. What is the best direction in trouble shooting?


I'd look at the cooling fan and air filter if the drive cabinet has one.
 
??? A drives specialist for Square D drives is asking random people on the Internet for help in debugging a Square D drive?

Bob,
I am a Rep for Square D Drives. I work for All Phase Medallion Electric Supply. I have taken online course and the Drives university course through Schneider Elec. I have only been in the industry since march of this year. I have some electrical background from my time in the military. Thanks for asking though.
 
The parameters were set wrong. I reset them using the programming manual. I'm getting to know these drives well but I am always looking for more insight and direction when It comes to troubleshooting.
 
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