Amish lanterns

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The subject of lighting in Amish homes and buildings has come up a few times here and I've mentioned that they have 18V corn cob LED lamps they use. Well, I finally got a picture of one for you. It looks to me like there's a local Amishman making these out of DeWalt, Makita, Milwaukee etc. flashlights and selling them. The DeWalt model was on sale for $82 with a battery and lamp at a local hardware store.
 

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That's where the solar panels come into play. Many Amish farms now have a panel or two for charging batteries.
Not really simple living though when they are using the products of modern technology and industrial processes. It seems to me that kinda defeats the simple, traditional living approach.

This is just an observation, not a criticism.
 
Not really simple living though when they are using the products of modern technology and industrial processes. It seems to me that kinda defeats the simple, traditional living approach.

This is just an observation, not a criticism.

I don't think that simplicity is, in and of itself, the driving motivation for their lifestyle. I think what shapes their lifestyle is what is needed to live a good, Christian life as they envision it. Much of how they envision that is being as self-sufficient as possible. So, they can have a land-line phone, but it has to be outside the house so that callers won't interrupt family time or prayer. They can have computers, power tools, vehicles for their businesses, but only so far as they are required to perform their work, so I've seen hardware store owner with cellular card readers have them later forbidden by the bishops since cash and checks are still commonly available payment options among both Amish and English (what they call us). They all have refrigeration, but it's LPG powered. They have stereo systems in their buggies loud enough to wake the dead (and probably scare the manure out of their horses, too ;) So it's not simplicity for simplicity's sake but the balance between simplicity or lack of it serves some higher purpose.
 
I don't think that simplicity is, in and of itself, the driving motivation for their lifestyle. I think what shapes their lifestyle is what is needed to live a good, Christian life as they envision it. Much of how they envision that is being as self-sufficient as possible. So, they can have a land-line phone, but it has to be outside the house so that callers won't interrupt family time or prayer. They can have computers, power tools, vehicles for their businesses, but only so far as they are required to perform their work, so I've seen hardware store owner with cellular card readers have them later forbidden by the bishops since cash and checks are still commonly available payment options among both Amish and English (what they call us). They all have refrigeration, but it's LPG powered. They have stereo systems in their buggies loud enough to wake the dead (and probably scare the manure out of their horses, too ;) So it's not simplicity for simplicity's sake but the balance between simplicity or lack of it serves some higher purpose.

I have heard/read that, along with simplicity, it is the desire to be free from dependence on 'the outside world' or 'big brother'. They typically have shunned electricity, because it has normally only been available through the national grid.
 
I have heard/read that, along with simplicity, it is the desire to be free from dependence on 'the outside world' or 'big brother'. They typically have shunned electricity, because it has normally only been available through the national grid.
Exactly. They want to be free from the outside world - yet they have to interact with it to some extent so it is unavoidable.

There is a small number of Amish families that have settled in the region where I live in the past 10-15 years.

My observations -

They will use any electric powered piece of equipment available - they will not power it from public utility sources, at least on their own property - there are some around here that contract work for others (typically construction) and it is just fine to plug their equipment into utility sources in those instances.

They also avoid Uncle Sam as much as possible. There is one crew of Amish guys that does general maintenance and construction for one of my commercial/industrial clients. They are like full time there but are contracted and not on the payroll, which I'm sure ends up meaning they pay little or no employment taxes, but if on the payroll they get same deductions as any other employee. While on this job they run every modern tool and equipment imaginable from cordless drills and saws to welders, plasma cutters, excavators, boom lifts....

AFAIK they also have each one of their homes registered as a place of worship - and rotate from home to home their Sunday worship to comply with any laws - this means they pay no real estate taxes - gets them further from Uncle Sam.

If they are renting a house they use electric and gas utilities that are provided, but if they own their home they have those items disconnected from public utility supply - may still use some of it but from their own on site sources.

You do not see as many horse and buggy on the roads anymore - most of them have purchased ATV's and UTV's (that do not require licensing or registration or even a drivers license to operate on a public road - gets them further from Uncle Sam again) and drive them everywhere they go in the local areas. They are legal to drive on country roads in this area but not on state highways, and that is not going to change because of the heavy use of similar equipment by area farmers in their regular operations. Small cities and villages usually tolerate them on public roads as well.

Anything gasoline powered is usually a go - even though it may cost less to power same type of equipment from the public electric grid. That one just never made much sense to me, after all there are taxes in both gasoline and electric power so it can't be for those reasons, I think it is just self-dependence when it comes to refusing to use public electric grid. Many of them do have solar panels on their houses I imagine primarily for some interior lighting.

They may have a telephone as has been mentioned, but will put it in the barn or other outbuilding and will only use it in emergencies. The ones that do construction contracting for outsiders are not afraid to ask their client to use their phone for conducting business. They also expect the client to transport their equipment to the job as they don't have trucks or trailers to haul things in. If customer doesn't provide this they do have a couple families they do pay to transport both their equipment as well as to transport people when they need to travel longer distances. I know of a family that owns a 15 passenger van and they transport Amish people for hire quite often.

I don't know that I like all of what I see, but this is what my observations have been.
 
Many of my observations are quite different.

I could be completely wrong, but that might mean Amish rules and regulations may vary greatly from state to state, community to community, church to church, and possibly even family to family.
 
Around Hutchinson Kansas: Yoder, Inmam, Buheler communities there is a sizable Amish-Mennonite Community. Some are Old Order & shun all modern convenience. Others accept modern amenities. As for vehicles they usually buy black or blue in color, they will specify painted bumpers. Chrome & bright colors attract attention & "Say look at Me"
 
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The writer who said the Amish vary was on the right track. Today's Amish are all in the US and Canada. I have spent part of each of the last 20 years in Lancaster County, PA and Holmes County, OH. Holmes, which along with adjoining border areas in the counties of Wayne, Coschocton, and Tuscarawas, contains the largest number of Amish. When an Englisher (everybody not belonging to a "plain" church, which consists of Amish, Mennonite, Amish-Mennonite, River Brethren and German Brethren, Hutterites, etc.) says "the Amish" do this or that, I automatically wince. There are dozens of different Amish churches.There are said to be 7 varieties of Amish and 7 varieties of Mennonites in the Holmes area. The Old Order are the most numerous, with the New Order second. Some are immediately identified by clothes or beard. For instance, the "Dan" Amish have only two shirt buttons. The New Order trims their beards, an example being "Slick" Dan Miller who you probably have seen several times in the so-called "Amish Heater" ads. (He used to be a minister in the New Order", but got too commercial for the group and was eased out of ministership). The Swartzentruber Amish, referred to by other groups as the "Low Order", are the most conservative and will not use plastic windscreens on their buggies, the rain or snow just blows in. Their driveways are always dirt and they still put up hay loose, whereas other Amish have accepted small balers driven by a diesel motor on a "forecart", pulled by horses. Their hats have 4" brims instead of the usual 3". Most midwestern Amish drive black taper- sided buggies, in PA they are usually gray straight-sided. The Big Valley PA "Nebraska Amish" have yellow-top buggies, brown pants, and only one strap over the shoulder. One group in Indiana, the Swiss Amish,prefer open buggies, even in the winter. Even within the same Order, districts can vary. Each church district, consisting of up to 30 families (if they exceed 30, they will divide along stream or road lines, because they'll outgrow the barns-houses- machinery building they have church in), has typically one bishop, two ministers and one deacon. These leaders decide what the "Ordnung" (rules) will be for their district. But they also have yearly meetings with other ministers in the same order to discuss what will be allowed, and are constantly in contact with other district leaders because they only have church every other week. In their off week, the leaders often attend church in another district and pick up new ideas.
We have known an Old Order family near Clark, OH for 18 years. In this time they have been allowed several changes: manual grass mowers to gasoline push mowers, telephone in an outbuilding instead of in a shack by the road, (only requirement is that the ring cannot be heard in the house), hand milking to a small 3 gallon pot with cups powered by a vacuum pump on the gasoline-driven milk cooler lineshaft, portable generators to power battery chargers for the buggy lights, phone batteries, and other work related chores, and other smaller changes. The new one last year was to allow natural gas freezers. They have had natural gas refrigerators for years. I could make a similar list about my more liberal New Order friends and their changes, but I think this is enough to give and idea that next time someone writes or says "the Amish", it may be accurate for many or just for a small group. Beware the generalities!
 
The writer who said the Amish vary was on the right track. Today's Amish are all in the US and Canada. I have spent part of each of the last 20 years in Lancaster County, PA and Holmes County, OH. Holmes, which along with adjoining border areas in the counties of Wayne, Coschocton, and Tuscarawas, contains the largest number of Amish. When an Englisher (everybody not belonging to a "plain" church, which consists of Amish, Mennonite, Amish-Mennonite, River Brethren and German Brethren, Hutterites, etc.) says "the Amish" do this or that, I automatically wince. There are dozens of different Amish churches.There are said to be 7 varieties of Amish and 7 varieties of Mennonites in the Holmes area. The Old Order are the most numerous, with the New Order second. Some are immediately identified by clothes or beard. For instance, the "Dan" Amish have only two shirt buttons. The New Order trims their beards, an example being "Slick" Dan Miller who you probably have seen several times in the so-called "Amish Heater" ads. (He used to be a minister in the New Order", but got too commercial for the group and was eased out of ministership). The Swartzentruber Amish, referred to by other groups as the "Low Order", are the most conservative and will not use plastic windscreens on their buggies, the rain or snow just blows in. Their driveways are always dirt and they still put up hay loose, whereas other Amish have accepted small balers driven by a diesel motor on a "forecart", pulled by horses. Their hats have 4" brims instead of the usual 3". Most midwestern Amish drive black taper- sided buggies, in PA they are usually gray straight-sided. The Big Valley PA "Nebraska Amish" have yellow-top buggies, brown pants, and only one strap over the shoulder. One group in Indiana, the Swiss Amish,prefer open buggies, even in the winter. Even within the same Order, districts can vary. Each church district, consisting of up to 30 families (if they exceed 30, they will divide along stream or road lines, because they'll outgrow the barns-houses- machinery building they have church in), has typically one bishop, two ministers and one deacon. These leaders decide what the "Ordnung" (rules) will be for their district. But they also have yearly meetings with other ministers in the same order to discuss what will be allowed, and are constantly in contact with other district leaders because they only have church every other week. In their off week, the leaders often attend church in another district and pick up new ideas.
We have known an Old Order family near Clark, OH for 18 years. In this time they have been allowed several changes: manual grass mowers to gasoline push mowers, telephone in an outbuilding instead of in a shack by the road, (only requirement is that the ring cannot be heard in the house), hand milking to a small 3 gallon pot with cups powered by a vacuum pump on the gasoline-driven milk cooler lineshaft, portable generators to power battery chargers for the buggy lights, phone batteries, and other work related chores, and other smaller changes. The new one last year was to allow natural gas freezers. They have had natural gas refrigerators for years. I could make a similar list about my more liberal New Order friends and their changes, but I think this is enough to give and idea that next time someone writes or says "the Amish", it may be accurate for many or just for a small group. Beware the generalities!

You've obviously seen a lot more of the different groups than I have. There are some visible differences around the Lancaster area, but none quite so drastic as you write about. The biggest difference I've noticed in my interactions (and this wouldn't be visible to tourists) is that north of Rt 30 they tend to be much more closed towards the English than south of Rt 30 where I used to live. Our Amish neighbors there were very open and friendly. Around here, not so much. I suspect some of that has to do with just being tired of being a tourist attraction all the time, but man, it's deep rooted. I go to that hardware store in the picture in White Horse, but I almost never buy anything there. It's like they can't be bothered to answer any questions or anything. Another hardware store outside of Quarryville is totally different.

I've built a rapport with a harness maker in Intercourse who's made me leather cases for my multimeters but it took a long time. It was worth it though. I don't think anybody has cooler cases than I have ;)
 
A very interesting post. I worked with an ex-mennonite in NYC years ago. He said the joke was the Amish guy would come to the Mennonite guys home and ask if he could borrow the "big red horse" in the barn. Of course the "big red horse" was a tractor to plow the fields.
 
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