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And this is why you don't use unlisted power cords that come with imported electronics.

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Todd0x1

Senior Member
Location
CA
I had a sketchy looking IEC cord with no UL listing on it. Figured I would see whats inside before I threw it away. I could not believe how small the copper was, looks like 26ga. The tin plated green wire in the pic is 22ga for reference. 20241105_183323-1200.jpg
 

Todd0x1

Senior Member
Location
CA
If the device it is powering only pulls half an amp, what difference does it make?
until that device which only pulls half and amp contains a MOV across its input that decides to go into supernova mode and your cord turns into a burning fuse before anything else opens.
 

petersonra

Senior Member
Location
Northern illinois
Occupation
engineer
until that device which only pulls half and amp contains a MOV across its input that decides to go into supernova mode and your cord turns into a burning fuse before anything else opens.
If the device is UL listed, that kind of thing is accounted for. In any case, the amount of current that a type 3 SPD will fail on is a lot less than you apparently think.
 

Speedskater

Senior Member
Location
Cleveland, Ohio
Occupation
retired broadcast, audio and industrial R&D engineering
One day with time on my hands, I measured several IEC cords in my spares box. Some were from PCs, printers and hi-fi equipment.
I used a 6½ digit 4 terminal Ohm meter. Some had a lot higher end-to-end resistance than their AWG suggested.
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I have read anecdotal reports about problems with cords from a cable company for A/V installers and another for test equipment.

I think that common problems (other than undersized conductors) might be:
a] swapped Hot & Neutral wire.
b] Safety Ground (EGC) not connected.
c] Wire strands not crimped.
d] poorly machined contacts.
 

VirutalElectrician

Senior Member
Location
Mpls, MN
Occupation
Sparky - Trying to be retired
This is why UL mandates that the minimum size of an extension cord be 16awg. Using a removable appliance cord is really no different. That same IEC connector is used on data center computers needing 14awg conductors.

Imagine some teenager grabbing that cord out of a box and using it to power their 1000 watt gaming computer.
 

suemarkp

Senior Member
Location
Kent, WA
Occupation
Retired Engineer
Had this problem all the time with IEC computer cords we kept in storage boxes. They ranged from #18 to #14. Some people would just grab a nice flexible 18 AWG cord intended for an LCD monitor and put it on their big server that originally came with a 14 AWG cord. Part of the problem is the C13/C14 cord has an amp limit of 10A internationally, and 15A in the US. The saving grace is many servers that appear to use 15A don't really draw that much power, at least on a nearly continuous basis.
 
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