Another brilliant idea... or not

[hbiss]

Seems Leviton is at it again. Introducing the Decora Edge. Wago goes backstab. What do you think?

Decora Edge | Install Switches & Outlets Faster | Leviton

Our Decora Edge Single Pole & 3-Way Switches and Tamper-Resistant 15-amp Outlet is easier-to-install with color-coded levers. It’s as easy as PUSH. CLICK. DONE!

www.leviton.com

-Hal

 

[letgomywago]

Seems Leviton is at it again. Introducing the Decora Edge. Wago goes backstab. What do you think?

Decora Edge | Install Switches & Outlets Faster | Leviton

Our Decora Edge Single Pole & 3-Way Switches and Tamper-Resistant 15-amp Outlet is easier-to-install with color-coded levers. It’s as easy as PUSH. CLICK. DONE!

www.leviton.com

-Hal

I'm OK with it but leviton costs me 3 bucks more for resi outlets than P and S so not really a savings. I wouldn't mind troubleshooting off those outlets though.

 

[LarryFine]

What do you think?

"Honey, we can change switches and sockets ourselves again!"

 

[brantmacga]

I think that’s pretty awesome. If i were in the production homebuilding segment I’d take a serious look. I would not be surprised if we get a CR version, and if so, I’m very interested in it.

 

[Little Bill]

"Honey, we can change switches and sockets ourselves again!"

That was my thinking, more DIY products.

 

[augie47]

Hopefully an improvement over the old "backstab"

 

[LarryFine]

Hopefully an improvement over the old "backstab"

That's not difficult.

 

[jim dungar]

That was my thinking, more DIY products.

Why would this be any more DIY than existing products? You still have to be able to strip wire correctly.

Wago style wire clamp terminations have been available for 40 years, when will our industry stop equating them with back stabbing up that has been around for more than 60 years?

 

[brantmacga]

From what local inspectors are telling me, residential new construction isn’t far off from DIY. I look at these and see labor efficiency.


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[tom baker]

Seems Leviton is at it again. Introducing the Decora Edge. Wago goes backstab. What do you think?

Decora Edge | Install Switches & Outlets Faster | Leviton

Our Decora Edge Single Pole & 3-Way Switches and Tamper-Resistant 15-amp Outlet is easier-to-install with color-coded levers. It’s as easy as PUSH. CLICK. DONE!

www.leviton.com

We won’t how well they work or don’t for many years. But Leviton generally makes good products.

-Hal

 

[Little Bill]

Why would this be any more DIY than existing products? You still have to be able to strip wire correctly.

Wago style wire clamp terminations have been available for 40 years, when will our industry stop equating them with back stabbing up that has been around for more than 60 years?

I wasn't referring to Wago, or that style connector. I was referring to Leviton making another product like their load center where owners can change their own breaker.

 

[VirutalElectrician]

I wasn't referring to Wago, or that style connector. I was referring to Leviton making another product like their load center where owners can change their own breaker.

Is there a.problem with a home owner swapping out a bad breaker? Not every electrical repair, including swapping out a breaker, requires a $300 service call from a guy with an attitude.

 

[Davebones]

Looks like you have to physically remove the outlet if you want to put a meter test lead on it .

 

[tank728]

Looks like you have to physically remove the outlet if you want to put a meter test lead on it .

Only with switches. Receptacles you can use the face

 

[Little Bill]

Is there a.problem with a home owner swapping out a bad breaker? Not every electrical repair, including swapping out a breaker, requires a $300 service call from a guy with an attitude.

Appears you might have an attitude. No one said there was anything wrong with it, just that Leviton seems to be making products for that reason.

 

[VirutalElectrician]

I've seen many Hubbell products, generally some of the highest quality you can buy, use Wagos internally for wire connections.

P&S also makes their Plugtail stuff with Wagos, although they are the push in type, not the lever type.



The Leviton product isn't much more than an integration of this concept. But this concept is better as it has the facility to pig tail the ground.

 

[brantmacga]

I've seen many Hubbell products, generally some of the highest quality you can buy, use Wagos internally for wire connections.

P&S also makes their Plugtail stuff with Wagos, although they are the push in type, not the lever type.

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The Leviton product isn't much more than an integration of this concept. But this concept is better as it has the facility to pig tail the ground.

The plug tail is a good concept, but the cost too far outweighs the labor savings in all of our markets. We prefab our standard devices w/ pigtails and they are "plugged" in during field install. The other shops here that pre-fab are doing the same thing. P&S rep really pushed hard on me to try them but at $10/ea (recep & the tail), it doesn't make sense.

 

[BarryO]

Hopefully an improvement over the old "backstab"

Looks like with these, removing the conductors will be more successful. With the old ones, I'd crack the plastic at least half the time trying to remove them (not a big loss considering how cheap they are).

 

[VirutalElectrician]

Looks like Hubbell doesn't want to be left out.

 

[letgomywago]

I don't like the hubble one compared to the others just from looking at it.