Another island question

[Minuteman]

I started to ask this on the other thread, but the water was already muddy enough.

We installed a SABC receptacle in the island. The island also has a forced air gas grill. So, one of us just added a recep below the countertop to the SABC on the island, and the AHJ tagged it. I can talk with the inspector Monday, but what gives? Is it because of the blower? I have done the same thing in the past, for a gas grill without a blower, (just igniter) and it passed. Any opinions?

 

[pierre]

Re: Another island question

It is permitted to have a receptacle installed from the SABC to an appliance listed in 210.52(B)(2) EX no. 2.

 

[electricmanscott]

Re: Another island question

I'd say the inspector correct. However would the vent fan motor be considered "supplemental equipment"?


Hmmm

What do the specs require for the grill?

 

[jimwalker]

Re: Another island question

You can not plug a fixed appliance into the SA receptacle.Start looking for a way to fix it.Having done something before only means you were not caught.

 

[iwire]

Re: Another island question

Originally posted by jimwalker:
You can not plug a fixed appliance into the SA receptacle.

Did you read the exception that Pirre posted?

IMO, the gas grill can be supplied from the SABC.

 

[George Stolz]

Re: Another island question

I was going to agree with Scott, but I re-read the exception prior to posting, per Charlie's rule.

('02) Exception No. 2: Receptacles installed to provide power for supplemental equipment and lighting on gas-fired ranges, ovens, or counter-mounted cooking units.

This doesn't say "igniter" like I thought it did.

It says "supplemental equipment."

So even though you can't supply a wall-mounted hood from the SABC (since it's not a counter or wall receptacle outlet), you can supply a hood that is integral to the cooktop.

 

[electricmanscott]

Re: Another island question

George, if you read my post carefully I didn't even agree with myself.

 

[iwire]

Re: Another island question

Originally posted by georgestolz:
This doesn't say "igniter" like I thought it did.

I was thinking more or less the same thing.

My WAG is that the exception was intended for igniter's or lamps with low current requirements.

IMO it was not intended to drive a possibly 9 amp fan.

But the wording allows it.

 

[iwire]

Re: Another island question



[ January 28, 2006, 12:52 PM: Message edited by: iwire ]

 

[George Stolz]

Re: Another island question

Originally posted by electricmanscott:
George, if you read my post carefully I didn't even agree with myself.

Yeah, I noticed that after I posted.

 

[Minuteman]

Re: Another island question

Originally posted by Minuteman:
Any opinions?

Do you guys have opinions... boy that was an understatement!

 

[LarryFine]

Re: Another island question

Originally posted by Minuteman:
Do you guys have opinions... boy that was an understatement!

"Not always right, but never in doubt!"