any circuits in the bathroom dont require afci correct ?

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bluecollar84 said:
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We are on 2014, I would say it's required. All outlets, which includes smoke detectors are required. The laundry lights are required, why would the bath be different. It is confusing since bathroom is not listed in 210.12(A). I guess you have an argument if you supply the whole bathroom with the one 20 amp circuit, seems like a contradiction to me.
 
bluecollar84 said:
any circuits in the bathroom dont require afci correct per 2017 NEC ?
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Any 15 or 20 Amp 120 Volt branch circuit that is ONLY in the bath, or bathrooms, is not required by the 2014 or 2017 NEC to be AFCI protected.

However, if the branch circuit has outlets in other rooms or areas, listed in 210.12, then AFCI is required.
 
GerryB said:
We are on 2014, I would say it's required. All outlets, which includes smoke detectors are required. The laundry lights are required, why would the bath be different. It is confusing since bathroom is not listed in 210.12(A). I guess you have an argument if you supply the whole bathroom with the one 20 amp circuit, seems like a contradiction to me.
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I just bought a 2017 NEC and they list every type of room to include a library and even closets but still bathrooms and garages are not on the list.

I was caught on an inspection for not having the bathroom on AFCI (2014 code cycle) but the inspector was wrong. I think half the contractors have probably just decided to arc fault everything so as not to have problems with inspections.

I don't really care as far as new contruction because I don't do much of it anymore but I like the idea of being able to change out a bathroom receptacle without adding arc fault protection.
 
Bathrooms have never been required to have afci, however as stated above, if the lighting circuit continues to an area that requires afci then you must have an afci in the circuit.

Since bathroom are often stacked we try and wire the bathroom lights together from each bathroom and of course, the bath receptacles are not an issue since they cannot supply an outlet or device outside the bathroom.
 
lordofthisworld said:
Arcs dont happen in the bathrooms and garage so you dont need them but arcs happen everywhere else in the house so you need them for those circuits. :?
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Here is my take on this---Since fans are often an issue with afci they do not want someone in a shower at night where all the lights could possibly go out. This could be especially dangerous for the elderly. Just my guess and I suspect that one day the bath areas will be included.
 
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