Appliance Garage Receptacle

[dnbob]

Are you required to install a receptacle in a kitchen appliance garage? Or can that area be considered a break in the countertop?

 

[bill addiss]

Re: Appliance Garage Receptacle

No, it's not required. If a receptacle is installed inside it can't be counted as one of the ones required. see 210.52(C)(5)

Bill

 

[bill addiss]

Re: Appliance Garage Receptacle

As an aside I heard that Canada has an interesting rule regarding Receptacles inside Appliances Garages that requires the power to the outlet be switched off if the 'Garage' door is closed.

Bill

 

[big john]

Re: Appliance Garage Receptacle

Originally posted by bill addiss:
...Canada has an interesting rule regarding Receptacles inside Appliances Garages that requires the power to the outlet be switched off if the 'Garage' door is closed.

How would this be accomplished, just by putting the appliance receptacle on a switch/indicator light combo. to be installed on the outside of the appliance garage? Or does the switch actually have to be intrinsically tied into the door so as to automatically disconnect power when the door closes?

Or am I misunderstanding you?

Thanks.
-John

 

[hbiss]

Re: Appliance Garage Receptacle

How about a pre-wired garage with a receptacle, switch on the door and a line cord or other means of connection.

 

[bill addiss]

Re: Appliance Garage Receptacle

Big John,

My understanding was that closing the door had to disconnect power to the receptacle(s) inside the Appliance Garage.

Can any of our Canadian members confirm or deny this?

Bill

 

[Ed MacLaren]

Re: Appliance Garage Receptacle

Can any of our Canadian members confirm or deny this?

Bill is correct, the relevant paragraphs read as follows-

"I. A receptacle shall not be placed in a cupboard, cabinet, or similar
enclosure except where:
(i) The receptacle is an integral part of a factory-built enclosure; or
(ii) The receptacle is provided for use with a specific type of appliance that is intended for use within the enclosure; or
(iii) The receptacle is intended for use with a microwave oven; and

J. Except for cord-connected dishwashers, in-line water heaters, garbage
disposal units, and other similar appliances, receptacles installed in
cupboards, cabinets, or similar enclosures in accordance with Paragraph I(ii)
shall be de-energized unless the enclosure door is in the fully opened
position."

Ed

 

[pierre]

Re: Appliance Garage Receptacle

Ed
How long has this been in effect? How do the installers actually conform to this and why was this instituted?
Thanks

Pierre

 

[Ed MacLaren]

Re: Appliance Garage Receptacle

How long has this been in effect?

About ten years. I think someone probably folded up the built-in ironing board with the iron still plugged in.
As you know, we live in a society where, when someone does something stupid, there are people all too ready to "make a rule to prevent it".

Ed

 

[bill addiss]

Re: Appliance Garage Receptacle

Thanks Ed!

I find the differences between codes in different places an interesting subject.


Bill

 

[Guest]

Re: Appliance Garage Receptacle

At first I thought you meant it's interesting how you can find differences between codes in different places within the NEC. You keep looking until you find a citation that agrees with your conclusion.

Then, I realized you mean the differences between codes in the USA vs. those in Canada

 

[tom baker]

Re: Appliance Garage Receptacle

Back to the appilance garage, no one can seem to agree the receptacle inside has to be on a GFCI, as the recpetacle inside does not count as a counter top recp, but all all counter top recps have to be GFCI protected.
A 2005 NEC change takes care of that....

 

[electricmanscott]

Re: Appliance Garage Receptacle

Tom why would it not be gfci protected. It is for appliances that are used on the counter. All receptacles for counter use must be gfci protected. This would certainly fall under that. Sure it does not count as one of the minimum recepts to serve the counter but it does serve the counter

 

[tom baker]

Re: Appliance Garage Receptacle

the language in the 2002 NEC may lead you to belive the recp in the appilance garage does not have to be GFCI protected. You can look at it two ways...

 

[ctroyp]

Re: Appliance Garage Receptacle

Originally posted by tom baker:
...You can look at it two ways...

I agree with you Tom, that is why I asked the question in another thread... here.

It would be good to clarify in '05.

[ November 03, 2003, 05:27 PM: Message edited by: ctroyp ]