Applying tape to split bolt connections on motors

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VinceS

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What is the standard which requires varnish tape, rubber tape then some form of plastic tape?

I have the American Electricians handbook, which supports this method. I was taught to apply varnish tape first because the rubber tape will soften after time. This may lead to the failure of the splice. I know there are many ways and new devices to splice connections these days, I just prefer the split bolt.
 
I've never seen anything writtten on it but that is the way I was taught too. I always thought the varnish tape(cambric) was for protection in that it was tough enough that the bolt could not wear through it.
 
The way I was taught was Varnished Cambric then Rubber then Friction then Scotch 33.

Sometimed we used the liner from the rubber to replace the varnished cambric in a pinch.
 
First I have never seen a split bolt in a motor termination box. Around here it would by compression lugs and bolts. As far as the tape I was taught that the cambric was to make it easier to untape. I guess that works if you use the cambric without adhesive, but if it has adhesive it leaves a sticky mess. I just use rubber and plastic tape now, when I tape, and have no trouble removing the tape when necessary.
I am a big fan of Tyco's GelCaps and use them when ever I can.
 
I use crimp on lugs and bolts too. I wrap the connection first with super 88 sticky side out. Then follow with rubber and more 88. I liked the T&B quick connects for smaller motors ,but a quick search of their site turned up nothing.
 
I use crimp on lugs and bolts too. I wrap the connection first with super 88 sticky side out. Then follow with rubber and more 88. I liked the T&B quick connects for smaller motors ,but a quick search of their site turned up nothing.
We've done it this way for years also with or without friction. Works great but I'm very interested in the gelcaps where I have the room for them.
 
I've made many split bolt motor connections over the years. Long ago we used an adhesive-free tape called Temflex instead of varnish cambric. When it was no longer available we used adhesive free v.c. The temflex and the v.c. made it very easy to remove the tape when necessary, the rubber was easy to use to build up around the split-bolt, and the plastic protected the splice from abrasion. Much better to use tape when you may need to replace the motor later. Better than the split bolt was ring terminals with bolt nut & washers....same tape method though..
 
Boy what a loaded question. I'm not sure there is a "right" way. Usually depends on what the contractor or boss has available. When working as a JW I'd ask the foreman how he wanted it done.

If only rubber and scotch-like tape are available then I prefer to apply a layer of scotch stickyside up next to the connector w/rubber over that w/scotch on top.

The layer of scotch next to the connector prevents the rubber from getting inbetween the connector if it heats up.
 
The way I was taught by my Master way back when was that 2 layers of non-adhesive varnished cambric tape goes on first to keep the connection clean for future access. Then 4 lapped layers of non-adhesive rubber tape goes over that to provide the primary insulation and moisture seal, because the rubber fuses over time and becomes a solid mass. It also provides some added resistance to abrasion against the peckerhead under vibration. Then 2 layers of adhesive PVC tape goes over the rubber because it's immediately adhesive, whereas the rubber will unravel before it can fuse if not covered. The PVC tape is also run down along the conductors at least 2 laps past the rubber tape to ensure the seal. I used to take apart a lot of old motor connections and when the cambric wasn't used, it was a mess to clean up the connections when it came time to make them up again.

In addition, I was told that the rubber will break down from the ozone that happens around the magnetic fields of the motor windings and the PVC will seal that out. I don't know about that last part though, I think that may be a relic of when people used a lot of brush type DC motors and maybe Universal motors, because ozone tends to come from arcs, and there shouldn't be any arcs in AC motors (except maybe Wound Rotor and Synchronous motors).

Split bolts vs ring lugs and bolts vs mechanical lugs; it all depends on the size of the motor. Generally we used ring tongue crimps with nuts and bolts for anything wired with #10 or smaller, then split bolts up to the point where motors came with their own mechanical lugs or studs. But I only worked on industrial plants, so we were NEVER allowed to use "wire nuts" anywhere other than in office receptacle and lighting j-boxes. IIRC, they are not allowed under NFPA79, which for an industrial facility, trumps NFPA70.

Mind you I have not been making up motor connections for a few years now, so I have no need to keep up with new product developments, but I have seen some cool stuff being peddled now.
 
Theres something I will never understand. I hate split bolts. :smile:

i have a feeling you would yell at me if we ever worked together. i love split bolts and prefer them. i dont mind the polaris connectors either but if i have a split bolt and rubber tape i would use it probably before i would use a polaris connector. i always used split bolts i never had a problem. they do take longer to install but thats ok. 3 minutes a splice is not that much
 
I have repaired many failed split bolts on motor connections. I prefer T&B motor stub boots, over 1 hole copper only crimp on lugs, with stainless steel hardware.
Fast to install and easy to take apart.
 
I always first tape with plastic so I can cut the splice cleanly open the next time the motor is changed. Then I either use mastic pad or rubber tape which ever is available. Then plastic tape over that. When I worked in the powerhouse they requested all motor splices to be varnished cambrick/Rubber tape/Friction tape/scotch 33. If a peckerhead was tight I would look for plastic from a milk container and razorblade a piece in case the split bolt vibrated its way through the rubber tape and blow out to the peckerhead casing.
 
Thanks ALL...

Thanks ALL...

I have found 3 STD's in Billsnuff's old post link. Thanks...

1. UL 520 - It's quoted in the EC&M article, but it's not a listed UL reference,
per ULStandards.com.

2. ASTM D1000 - Also quoted by EC&M. Exists, at the cost of $43.00...

3. CSA.2 (Canada)

If anyone has actually read reference 1 or 2? Does either clearly state the requirements for insulating a split bolt junction or does it recommend them?

I have also found several government projects with detailed specifications. This leads me to wonder if the splice junction insulation specifications are left to the specific project EE or EC.
 
I have repaired many failed split bolts on motor connections. I prefer T&B motor stub boots, over 1 hole copper only crimp on lugs, with stainless steel hardware.
Fast to install and easy to take apart.
I've never seen a properly installed split bolt fail. Like Bob I don't like them either but properly done they are bullet proof.
 
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