ARC fault breaker

[Toros]

Hi,
Code requires us to provide arc type breaker on circuit feeding dining room receptacles
also, on the other hand, it says dining room receptacle shall be supplied by kitchen small appliance circuits (GFCIs)


How would you do this


Can you mix GFCIs with arc fault breaker????

 

[GoldDigger]

Hi,
Code requires us to provide arc type breaker on circuit feeding dining room receptacles
also, on the other hand, it says dining room receptacle shall be supplied by kitchen small appliance circuits (GFCIs)


How would you do this


Can you mix GFCIs with arc fault breaker????

So far, the consensus is that you will have to combine an AFCI breaker with a GFCI receptacle as the first receptacle in line or combine a GFCI breaker with an AFCI receptacle. Or a dead front GFCI with an AFCI receptacle, I suppose.
A lot depends on whether the GFCI component in some AFCI breakers meets the leakage current threshold to allow it to count as GFCI protection. Right now I do not think it does. And there are now AFCI breakers without any GFCI function at all.

 

[drspec]

been doing it that way for years with no problems

 

[mjf]

Yes, the dining room receptacles will need to be AFCI protected and on a SA circuit, but they are NOT required to be GFCI protected.

 

[Ponchik]

Yes dining room has to be AFCI protected. GFCI receptacle in the kitchen works fine on a AFCI circuit.

If you are worried about a GFCI on an AFCI circuit, then just install another 20A SABC for the dining room.

 

[Toros]

Balcony GFCI outlet on bed room circuit

Balcony GFCI outlet on bed room circuit

So far, the consensus is that you will have to combine an AFCI breaker with a GFCI receptacle as the first receptacle in line or combine a GFCI breaker with an AFCI receptacle. Or a dead front GFCI with an AFCI receptacle, I suppose.
A lot depends on whether the GFCI component in some AFCI breakers meets the leakage current threshold to allow it to count as GFCI protection. Right now I do not think it does. And there are now AFCI breakers without any GFCI function at all.

How about GFCIs in apart. balcony.
Can I install them on end of line of circuits suppling bed room receptacles which are protected through arc-fault circ.breakers??????

 

[GoldDigger]

How about GFCIs in apart. balcony.
Can I install them on end of line of circuits suppling bed room receptacles which are protected through arc-fault circ.breakers??????

Yes.