arc fault breakers

[ggavin]

article 210.12B list rooms for arc fault breakers. The kitchen is not listed. I have an inpsector who is requiring me to put arc faults in the kitchen for lighting, and outlets on the wall that are not GFI protected. I argued that it is not listed and I don't need them. am I right?

 

[dcooper]

welcome to the board gavin. this is an easy one. just show him your code book with the article that doesnt have kitchens listed under the arc fault protection

 

[charlie b]

article 210.12B list rooms for arc fault breakers. The kitchen is not listed.

That was an intentional decision on the part of the Code Making Panel. Your inspector has no business requiring what the CMP did not require. You are right. Welcome to the forum.

 

[dcooper]

210.12(b)
dwelling units
all 120v, single phase,15 and 20 amp branch cir supplying outlets installed in dwelling unit : amily rm, dining rm, living rm,parlor, library, den, bed rm, sun rm, recreation rm, closets, hallwas or similar rms or areas

 

[suemarkp]

Dining room receptacles are usually on the kitchen small appliance circuits (210.52(B)(3)). So if one dining room outlet is on that circuit, then the whole circuit must be AFCI'd.

Does the kitchen lighting circuit have outlets (lighting or receptacles) in any of the areas where AFCI's are required? If so, then the whole circuit needs an AFCI again.

These new AFCI rules will force electricians to make some circuit changes if they are trying to minimize the need for AFCI's.

 

[juptonstone]

It's never an easy one!

It's never an easy one!

I've proven inspectors wrong, but at a cost... they hate you afterwards and look for even the smallest item to take issue with. Plus they can hold a job up costing you money. My rule of thumb is ARC Faults in every room and every circuit except for the bathrooms, kitchen, garage and outside (where you need GFI's)... The only place I don't put anything is the attic as it has keyless light sockets that aren't grounded... I've read chapter and verse to inspectors only to have them refuse calls until I ended up going to their boss! I even had one inspector demand that I install a circuit (under a mobile home) with UF wire (80' of it) in conduit! When I tried to suggest that that wasn't to code and it should be THWN in conduit, he said "prove it and hung upon me.... I was closed down for four days until I finally got an appointment with his boss! After that he passed it...