powerpete69
Senior Member
- Location
- Northeast, Ohio
- Occupation
- Professional Electrical Engineer
Wanted to chat a bit about the exceptions written below by the fine folk on NFPA 70E.
I'm on a site with over 1,200 busses. 40 plus substations.
Our safety guy suggested that I update all our arc flash labels because they are getting past 5 years.
Then I've noticed the exceptions below. It says update labels every 5 years unless either of the exceptions below apply.
Here's my thing. I have the arc flash model from 5 years ago and can prove that the calorie levels of each bus haven't changed compared to todays current model. We also have professional electricians onsite that suit up when needed. I am also the engineer onsite that supervises it all. Have a few items been added to the system? Sure, so they have new arc flash labels on them and things around them haven't changed.
Here's another question? Why did the fine folk at NFPA 70e write those exceptions? Per my opinion, they wrote them so people don't waste time and money putting stickers over older stickers that read the same thing.
What are other peoples thoughts on the exceptions below? Why not use them if they are legitimate? It would take me at least 6 months to update the arc flash stickers on site. Why would I waste unnecessary time doing that when we are arc flash sticker compliant per the exceptions below?
NFPA 70E 130.6(H) Equipment Labeling. Electrical equipment such as switchboards, panelboards, industrial control panels, meter socket enclosures, and motor control centers that are in other than dwelling units and that are likely to require examination, adjustment, servicing, or maintenance while energized shall be marked with a label containing all the following information: (1) Nominal system voltage (2) Arc flash boundary (3) At least one of the following: a. Available incident energy and the corresponding working distance, or the arc flash PPE category in Table 130.7(C)(15)(a) or Table 130.7(C)(15)(b) for the equipment, but not both b. Minimum arc rating of clothing c. Site-specific level of PPE
Exception No. 1: Unless changes in electrical distribution system(s) render the label inaccurate, labels applied prior to the effective date of this edition of the standard shall be acceptable if they complied with the requirements for equipment labeling in the standard in effect at the time the labels were applied.
Exception No. 2: In supervised industrial installations where conditions of maintenance and engineering supervision ensure that only qualified persons monitor and service the system, the information required in 130.5(H)(1) through 130.5(H)(3) shall be permitted to be documented in a manner that is readily available to persons likely to perform examination, servicing, maintenance, and operation of the equipment while energized. The method of calculating and the data to support the information for the label shall be documented. The data shall be reviewed for accuracy at intervals not to exceed 5 years. Where the review of the data identifies a change that renders the label inaccurate, the label shall be updated. The owner of the electrical equipment shall be responsible for the documentation, installation, and maintenance of the marked label.
I'm on a site with over 1,200 busses. 40 plus substations.
Our safety guy suggested that I update all our arc flash labels because they are getting past 5 years.
Then I've noticed the exceptions below. It says update labels every 5 years unless either of the exceptions below apply.
Here's my thing. I have the arc flash model from 5 years ago and can prove that the calorie levels of each bus haven't changed compared to todays current model. We also have professional electricians onsite that suit up when needed. I am also the engineer onsite that supervises it all. Have a few items been added to the system? Sure, so they have new arc flash labels on them and things around them haven't changed.
Here's another question? Why did the fine folk at NFPA 70e write those exceptions? Per my opinion, they wrote them so people don't waste time and money putting stickers over older stickers that read the same thing.
What are other peoples thoughts on the exceptions below? Why not use them if they are legitimate? It would take me at least 6 months to update the arc flash stickers on site. Why would I waste unnecessary time doing that when we are arc flash sticker compliant per the exceptions below?
NFPA 70E 130.6(H) Equipment Labeling. Electrical equipment such as switchboards, panelboards, industrial control panels, meter socket enclosures, and motor control centers that are in other than dwelling units and that are likely to require examination, adjustment, servicing, or maintenance while energized shall be marked with a label containing all the following information: (1) Nominal system voltage (2) Arc flash boundary (3) At least one of the following: a. Available incident energy and the corresponding working distance, or the arc flash PPE category in Table 130.7(C)(15)(a) or Table 130.7(C)(15)(b) for the equipment, but not both b. Minimum arc rating of clothing c. Site-specific level of PPE
Exception No. 1: Unless changes in electrical distribution system(s) render the label inaccurate, labels applied prior to the effective date of this edition of the standard shall be acceptable if they complied with the requirements for equipment labeling in the standard in effect at the time the labels were applied.
Exception No. 2: In supervised industrial installations where conditions of maintenance and engineering supervision ensure that only qualified persons monitor and service the system, the information required in 130.5(H)(1) through 130.5(H)(3) shall be permitted to be documented in a manner that is readily available to persons likely to perform examination, servicing, maintenance, and operation of the equipment while energized. The method of calculating and the data to support the information for the label shall be documented. The data shall be reviewed for accuracy at intervals not to exceed 5 years. Where the review of the data identifies a change that renders the label inaccurate, the label shall be updated. The owner of the electrical equipment shall be responsible for the documentation, installation, and maintenance of the marked label.