Article 210- Fixture required

[Keith Roberts]

Article 210.70 (A) Dwelling Units states that "In dwelling units, lighting outlets shall be installed in accordance with 210.70(A)(1), (A)(2) and (A)(3). Simple question- Does a light fixture have to be installed if the a lighting outlet is provided in the ceiling to pass inspection?

 

[Dennis Alwon]

Article 210.70 (A) Dwelling Units states that "In dwelling units, lighting outlets shall be installed in accordance with 210.70(A)(1), (A)(2) and (A)(3). Simple question- Does a light fixture have to be installed if the a lighting outlet is provided in the ceiling to pass inspection?

Around here they may require it but it is a question that many disagree on. I would call the inspector and see what they require.

 

[dicklaxt]

Thats one of those(Art) that I say only an outlet is req'd and does not include the fixture,,,,,,,,How can this one be misinterpreted:?

dick

 

[Dennis Alwon]

Thats one of those(Art) that I say only an outlet is req'd and does not include the fixture,,,,,,,,How can this one be misinterpreted:?

dick

I agree but as everything in the NEC there are areas that will insist that the light be installed. Now the building code may require the light to be installed-- not sure of that. Also how can they require a lamp to be there if the lighting outlet is a switched recep.? They can't so it would stand to reason that the light is not required to be installed.

I know that years ago the inspections dept in some areas would only allow a few temp. lights like keyless etc. They wanted to make sure the fixtures were Listed. Not sure they do that anymore.

 

[roger]

This is one that has been answered in an ROP.

1-38 Log #573 NEC-P01
Final Action: Reject
(100.Lighting Outlet)​

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Submitter:​

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Alan H. Nadon, City of Elkhart, IN​

Recommendation: ​

Revise as follows:
Lighting Outlet. An outlet having intended for the direct connection of a
lampholder, a luminaire (lighting fixture), or a pendant cord terminating in a
lampholder, that is directly connected .​

Substantiation:​

Intent cannot be determined during an inspection. A junction
box with a blank cover, even one containing switched conductors, does not
provide the illumination needed for persons to move about safely thus
preventing accidents.​

Panel Meeting Action: Reject​

70-22​

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Report on Proposals A2007​

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? Copyright, NFPA NFPA 70​

Panel Statement: ​

The proposed definition would require a luminaire
wherever a lighting outlet is installed. Code rules dictate where lighting is
required. CMP-1 refers the submitter to the panel action and statement on
Proposal 1-39.​

Number Eligible to Vote: 12
Ballot Results: ​

Affirmative: 12
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Roger