article 680.23 (F )(3)

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For years I have been putting a 20 amp GFCI breaker for a wet niche light and a 20 amp 2-pole breaker for motors in the same panel; and then using one conduit to feed the motors and then to the deck box to feed the wet niche light. this article stats that other conductors cannot be ran on the load side of GFCI conductors. But dosent this installation fall under condition 4, Am I correct?? Both breakers are in the same panel and the conduit orginates at the panel.

[ November 09, 2004, 06:47 AM: Message edited by: tonyyaroch ]
 
Re: article 680.23 (F )(3)

I'm sorry , I see you're siting 680.23(F)(3).

Doesn't this say to keep the GFI'd conductors in a seperate raceway? Are you skipping 680.23(F)(3) to get to the exeptions?

I'm still a bit fuzzy here.

I think exeption 4 was written by someone who had too much extra ink in his pen.

Someone, please tell me I'm wrong. Does this say you can put a GFI breaker in a panel, the hard way?

Geeze, I'm confused too now.
 
Re: article 680.23 (F )(3)

680.23(F)(3)
(3) Conductors. Conductors on the load side of a GFCI or of a transformer, used to comply with the provision of 680.23(A) (8), Shall not occupy raceways, boxes or enclosures containing other conductors unless one of the following conditions applies:

1)The conductors are protected by a GFCI.

2)The other conductors are grounding conductors.

3)The other conductors are supply conductors to a feed-through type GFCI.

4)GFCI shall be permitted in a panelboard that contains circuits protected by other than GFCI.

I am referring to Number 4. I think this makes the above installation correct?? ( this is from the code book) (2002)
 
Re: article 680.23 (F )(3)

It sounds like what you were doing is a violation, unless the motors have a feed-thru GFI at the motor (the exception #(F)(3)(3)).

I think this is to prevent power from the motor branch circuit (which is Non-GFI) from somehow finding its way into the light fixture.

The exception you mentioned only allows the wiring from the two breakers in the same panelboard. It would be a real pain to have to install a separate panelboard just for GFI breakers.

Steve
 
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