Average body resistance

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Been looking on the net for the correct 'average' body resistance in ohms. I know other factors play a part, (wetness, sweating etc..) but Im just looking for the average.
Ive seen too many that are to far apart, from 10,000 ohms to 1500 ohms all say its the 'average'.

Is there an official 'average' for an adult human?? This is just for explaining to someone why we have the 50 VOLT 5milliamp threshold for Osha, gfci's etc..
 
I don't think there is an answer, our bodies are not homogeneous. Also how are you taking the reading? Tip of a finger to tip of a toe or from you're wrist to elbow?

When the resistance of a metal is stated they also state the amount of metal.
 
I don't think there is an answer, our bodies are not homogeneous. Also how are you taking the reading? Tip of a finger to tip of a toe or from you're wrist to elbow?

When the resistance of a metal is stated they also state the amount of metal.

I 'assume' osha was going from one had to the other across the chest. How else would they come up wthe 50 volt 5 milliamp max for a safe range. that comes to 10,000 ohm resistance.

I know I read somewhere that the 'let go ' range is under 9 milliamps. So maybe they are thinking that if the 'average' person does touch a hot conductor, then they can still 'let go' at this range.
 
found this ,.. seems reasonable
http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/docs/98-131/overview.html

The level of current passing through the human body is directly related to the resistance of its path through the body. Under dry conditions, the resistance offered by the human body may be as high as 100,000 Ohms. Wet or broken skin may drop the body's resistance to 1,000 Ohms. The following illustrations of Ohm's law demonstrates how moisture affects low-voltage electrocutions. Under dry conditions, Current=Volts/Ohms = 120/100,000 = 1 mA, a barely perceptible level of current. Under wet conditions, Current=Volts/Ohms = 120/1,000 = 120 mA, sufficient current to cause ventricular fibrillation. Wet conditions are common during low-voltage electrocutions.
 
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I 'assume' osha was going from one had to the other across the chest.

I would not assume that, but if I did;

How large is the person?

How wet?

How large are the contact points?

How else would they come up with the 50 volt 5 milliamp max for a safe range.

Testing.

that comes to 10,000 ohm resistance.

:confused:


What is the average electrical resistance of this truck?

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See what I am getting at?
 
I would not assume that, but if I did;

How large is the person?

How wet?

How large are the contact points?



Testing.



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What is the average electrical resistance of this truck?

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See what I am getting at?

I think you still missed my point. I already mention that I know about the other variables of how wet, or dry etc. a person is. But they (OSHA) still came up with a number. I know that they were 'testing', but what test?? They chose 50 volts and under for a reason. Not to mention the 5 milliamps. You make me laugh by just saying testing. Osha had to choose an average number for the ohms law. ;)
 
But they (OSHA) still came up with a number.

No 'OSHA' did not come up with any number, when OSHA came into being they used existing standards taken from many sources.

M.D. has shown the high range of resistance the body can exhibit.

I know that they were 'testing', but what test??

I imagine they may have used data from Charles Dalziel (and others) who literally gave people shocks and came up with limits of current based on his own testing procedure.


You make me laugh by just saying testing.


Laugh all you want, I thought you wanted to learn something.:grin:



For the morbidly curious, Charles Dalziel's experimentation conducted at the University of California (Berkeley) began with a state grant to investigate the bodily effects of sub-lethal electric current. His testing method was as follows: healthy male and female volunteer subjects were asked to hold a copper wire in one hand and place their other hand on a round, brass plate. A voltage was then applied between the wire and the plate, causing electrons to flow through the subject's arms and chest. The current was stopped, then resumed at a higher level. The goal here was to see how much current the subject could tolerate and still keep their hand pressed against the brass plate. When this threshold was reached, laboratory assistants forcefully held the subject's hand in contact with the plate and the current was again increased. The subject was asked to release the wire they were holding, to see at what current level involuntary muscle contraction (tetanus) prevented them from doing so. For each subject the experiment was conducted using DC and also AC at various frequencies. Over two dozen human volunteers were tested, and later studies on heart fibrillation were conducted using animal subjects.


http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_1/chpt_3/10.html
 
http://content.cdlib.org/xtf/view?d...=frames&chunk.id=div00022&toc.depth=1&toc.id=

Dalziel, using unique methods of persuasion, extreme care and rigorous methods of testing, amassed a large amount of data from a wide range of tests on approximately 200 volunteers of both sexes and a range of ages. These data provided an excellent source of information on the physiological effects of electric shock, and Dalziel soon became a world authority on the subject.


http://www.highvoltageconnection.com/articles/ElectricShockQuestions.htm

While the resistance of skin and shoes are generally high, the resistance of the internal human body can be as low as 500 ohms. Thus, if there is a puncture of the skin at the current path, the shock danger increases dramatically. For purposes of analysis, a value of 1000 or 1500 ohms is probably more realistic for low or medium voltage cases, involving wet or firm contact, but with skin intact (reference 3, page 9).



If there is excellent contact with the skin (such as immersing the feet in salt water), even with the skin intact, the maximum reasonable safe voltage is only 10 V ac. In addition, on very high voltage circuits, the skin can break down very rapidly, thereby causing the resistance to decrease severely (reference 3, page 8).
 
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OK, lots of interesting theories here, I have been teaching this for 20 years to 10's of thousands of electricians all across North America, can't believe anyone here didn't attend one of my classes. :)

There is an IEEE standard, (Std 80-2000) that has all of the real research compiled, Iwire had some nice links where that info was based off IEEE 80.

The resistance of the human body can vary dramatically depending on several factors, sex, weight, diet, etc. But really those don;t make much of a difference. Essentially it is the skin, along with such factors as area of contact, tightness of contact, dryness or wetness of the skin, and cuts, abrasions, or blisters that introduce the variables.

Excluding the skin, human body resistance (Internally) is about 250 Ohms per arm or leg, and 100-500 Ohms for the torso. Unless the skin is punctured, the skin will provide additional resistance. The worst-case scenario is considered to be 500 Ohms hand-to-hand. Some typical values of skin resistance are:

Condition of contact Resistance (Ohms)
Dry Wet
Finger touch 40 k-1 M 4-15 k
Hand holding wire 15-50 k 3-6 k
Finger-thumb grasp 10-30 k 2-5 k
Hand holding pliers 5-10 k 1-3 k
Hand around pipe (or drill) 1-3 k 0.5-1.5 k
Palm touch 3-8 k 1-2 k
Two hands around pipe 0.5-1.5 k 250-750
Hand immersed -------- 200-500
Foot immersed -------- 100-300


Using these typical values, a person can estimate their approximate body resistance. Let?s say a person grabs a wire in a 480/277V panel that they assumed was deenergized while touching the panel door with the other hand. The worker would have about:

250 ohms for the arm +
250 Ohms for the other arm +
32,500 Ohms for the skin
A total resistance of about 33,000 Ohms

277V/33,000 Ohms = 8.4 mA (Mild shock)

Now lets look at the same scenario, but this time with wet or sweaty skin.

250 ohms for the arm +
250 Ohms for the other arm +
4500 Ohms for the skin
A total resistance of about 5000 Ohms

277V/5500 Ohms = 55.4 mA (Respiratory Paralysis, possible fibrillation, may be fatal)

What a difference huh? We can't control when we sweat, or what our skin resistance will be at any given time. Wearing rubber soled shoes (OSHA requirement for all electrical workers) and rubber gloves can make all these variables for skin resistance irrevelent.

Materials Resistance (Ohms)
Rubber gloves or soles More than 20 M
Dry concrete above grade 1-5 M
Dry concrete on grade 0.2-1 M
Leather sole, dry 100-500 k
Leather sole, damp 5-20k
Wet concrete on grade 1-5 k

Now to answer the OP's question. Yes, OSHA used some values to derive the 50V working rule. They assumed a worse case human body resistance of 500 Ohms and the 100mA fibrilation threshhold, 500 Ohms times 0.1A = 50V.
 
Let-go

Let-go

I know I read somewhere that the 'let go ' range is under 9 milliamps. So maybe they are thinking that if the 'average' person does touch a hot conductor, then they can still 'let go' at this range.

You have it - men have a 'let-go' range of ~ 9 milliamps; for women it is ~ 6 milliamps.

I believe GFCI's are rated from 4-6 milliamps [5 milliamps + 1]. GFCI's are primarily a 'time' device - ie. a GFCI reacts in fractions of a second [forgot how many cycles], but this is what saves peoples lives; a GFCI doesn't protect you from a shock, it protects you from being electrocuted by shutting off quickly - before your heart starts to defibrillate.

I know someone will jump in here and give us a real good explanation, but this is the jist of it.
 
This is very enlightening information,especially what Zog and Bob (kinda rhymes) posted. But what I would like to know is how some one talked 200 people into letting him hook them up to a damn drop cord:confused:
 
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