lukefeil
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- Lake Orion, Michigan
Hello Everyone!
I stumbled across a little code questions that gets me through the NEC and the NFPA79. On an industrial HVAC system for a climate control testing chamber the supplier used AWM style cable (not dual rated). This cable is installed in bundles around the machine, fastened with cable ties and used for low voltage control signals only.
I believe these cables should be run in a raceway. The supplier believes as low voltage they're excempt from NEC. Here my current problem:
1) I know that NEC applies to all wiring, independent of voltage
2) Article 725 incudes some excemption for "low voltage" wiring in regards to Article 300
3) But 725.46 tells me that Class I has to comply with Part I of Article 300 (which is <1000V so basically the excemption from Article 300 is void) and with the wirig methods from chapter 3
-> AWM style cable is generally not permitted, as it is not an NEC described wiring method.
Now we are leaving NEC and go to NFPA 79.
1) in 2007 all AWM style cable was banished from industrial machines, as the AWM cable should only be used inside a listed equipment
2) in 2018 the AWM style cable was re-introduced in 12.9.2, and it's use permitted under certain conditions
3) 12.9.2(3) tells us that AWM style cable can be used if it complies with Section 12.2 through 12.6 (and some modifications)
4) without verifying the stranding, gauges, etc. I look at 12.6.4.3 that tells me that the cables need to be installed according to chapter 13
5) Chapter 13, section 13.1.6 "Cables" simply says that "exposed cables installed along the structure of the equipment or system or i the chases of the mcahinery shalle be peritted and shall be installed to closely follow the surface and structral members of the machiner"
The last point (5) gives me my big headache - it generally states that cables are permitted in exposed installation. Knowing that NEC applies independent of NFPA 79, I guess the authors of NFPA 79 relied on the provisions in Chapter 3 of NEC to describe the individual requirements for each cable assembly type. But as I got AWM style cable it is not referenced in NEC - so no further requirements.
Am I wrong (the supplier can install the AWM cable unprotected around the machine), right (the code has a flaw) or do I oversee something?
Best Regards,
lukefeil
I stumbled across a little code questions that gets me through the NEC and the NFPA79. On an industrial HVAC system for a climate control testing chamber the supplier used AWM style cable (not dual rated). This cable is installed in bundles around the machine, fastened with cable ties and used for low voltage control signals only.
I believe these cables should be run in a raceway. The supplier believes as low voltage they're excempt from NEC. Here my current problem:
1) I know that NEC applies to all wiring, independent of voltage
2) Article 725 incudes some excemption for "low voltage" wiring in regards to Article 300
3) But 725.46 tells me that Class I has to comply with Part I of Article 300 (which is <1000V so basically the excemption from Article 300 is void) and with the wirig methods from chapter 3
-> AWM style cable is generally not permitted, as it is not an NEC described wiring method.
Now we are leaving NEC and go to NFPA 79.
1) in 2007 all AWM style cable was banished from industrial machines, as the AWM cable should only be used inside a listed equipment
2) in 2018 the AWM style cable was re-introduced in 12.9.2, and it's use permitted under certain conditions
3) 12.9.2(3) tells us that AWM style cable can be used if it complies with Section 12.2 through 12.6 (and some modifications)
4) without verifying the stranding, gauges, etc. I look at 12.6.4.3 that tells me that the cables need to be installed according to chapter 13
5) Chapter 13, section 13.1.6 "Cables" simply says that "exposed cables installed along the structure of the equipment or system or i the chases of the mcahinery shalle be peritted and shall be installed to closely follow the surface and structral members of the machiner"
The last point (5) gives me my big headache - it generally states that cables are permitted in exposed installation. Knowing that NEC applies independent of NFPA 79, I guess the authors of NFPA 79 relied on the provisions in Chapter 3 of NEC to describe the individual requirements for each cable assembly type. But as I got AWM style cable it is not referenced in NEC - so no further requirements.
Am I wrong (the supplier can install the AWM cable unprotected around the machine), right (the code has a flaw) or do I oversee something?
Best Regards,
lukefeil