Back Stab, Fire Waiting to happen?

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Backstabs are a service call waiting to happen. 99.9% of the time the resulting problem will manifest as failure to work or operate, no pwer downstream. Seen many but never one that caused combustion.
 
__dan said:
Backstabs are a service call waiting to happen. 99.9% of the time the resulting problem will manifest as failure to work or operate, no pwer downstream. Seen many but never one that caused combustion.
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But if there is combustion- will it be you or a fire fighter on the other end? ;)
 
mbrooke said:
But if there is combustion- will it be you or a fire fighter on the other end? ;)
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If it caused fires, the manufacter would be concerned about their liability, public relations exposure, and see to it that did not happen. That would be over their entire installed base or product line.

If it only causes service calls, manfacturer is only concerned about it being out of the warranty period.
 
__dan said:
If it caused fires, the manufacter would be concerned about their liability, public relations exposure, and see to it that did not happen. That would be over their entire installed base or product line.

If it only causes service calls, manfacturer is only concerned about it being out of the warranty period.
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What liability if it met UL/NRTL standards? And was installed to code?
 
mbrooke said:
What liability if it met UL/NRTL standards? And was installed to code?
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Well now you sound like OSHA responding to my last letter. I told them the code violation was by definition "electrically unsafe". They said it was only a danger to the equipment and not the worker (!?). But they did twice give me an opportunity to "speculate" how it could be dangerous to the employee (twice, once for the violation and once for the termination of the whistleblower).

I was not expecting much, just executing on my obligation per the system. But that was a surprise result I had not thought of. I did tell them it was really easy to get another opinion about that (more than several times). Actually told them well the motor smokes before it is run into destruction and there's 20 people hand picking within 20 ft of it, not supposed to be breathing those fumes. And it was in the range of 1000 hp for all the affected motors in aggregate

There was another (and another) that I did not say. Could should would be motorized safety and fresh air system motors required to run, that would not after they also smoked. I did already know that you just need a lot of practice writing those things.

You're thinking the insurer will pay but they're a bigger dog also. They will just walk the job and cite the homeowner for putting too many clothes in the dryer, making it his fault.

Section 11(c) protects employees of private industry who complain about safety and/or health at their work place or participate in other endeavors in the furtherance of occupational safety and health and suffer retaliation as a result. The information you provided does not allege any activity protected under any whistleblower act.

I filed it with the EEOC also but they closed down now before the queue could ever get to me.

So I should file my claim with UL after the insurer bails on me. whaaat.
 
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