Hi, Is it o.k. to run a bare ground conductor in rigid nonmetallic conduit? The job in question was a 100 amp feed to an out building.#2 conductors with a bare #6 in 2" pvc.I didn't think this was correct but in looking for a code reference that says you can't , I Couldn't come up with one. Thanks
bare gound in conduit? is it o.k.
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peter d
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Re: bare gound in conduit? is it o.k.
Not a problem. No code reference forbids bare grounding conductors.
But I may get walloped with some obscure code reference that I don't know about.
Not a problem. No code reference forbids bare grounding conductors.
But I may get walloped with some obscure code reference that I don't know about.
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Re: bare gound in conduit? is it o.k.
Why would there be a problem?
Why would there be a problem?
bphgravity
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310.2(A) states that conductors shall be insulated. The exception would include section 250.119 for equipment grounding (bonding) conductors. This would mean that grounded conductors cannot be bare yet they are in SE cable? 338.100 permits the bare conductor in SE cable but says nothing about what you are permitted to use it for.
310.2(A) states that conductors shall be insulated. The exception would include section 250.119 for equipment grounding (bonding) conductors. This would mean that grounded conductors cannot be bare yet they are in SE cable? 338.100 permits the bare conductor in SE cable but says nothing about what you are permitted to use it for.
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Re: bare gound in conduit? is it o.k.
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bphgravity
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Thanks Bob, I knew it was somwhere!
Thanks Bob, I knew it was somwhere!
websparky
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What if this is a feeder and not a service?
What if this is a feeder and not a service?
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I assumed the OP was asking about a grounding not a grounded conductor, now I am not so sure.
Then IMO it would have to be insulted,
I assumed the OP was asking about a grounding not a grounded conductor, now I am not so sure.
electricman2
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If this is a 3 wire circuit to the outbuilding and the #6 is used as the grounded conductor, then it must be insulated IMO.
If this is a 3 wire circuit to the outbuilding and the #6 is used as the grounded conductor, then it must be insulated IMO.
tx2step
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Re: bare gound in conduit? is it o.k.
What about 250.119?
The first sentence allows bare EGCs.
What about 250.119?
The first sentence allows bare EGCs.
tx2step
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Bob -- why would you want to insult some poor defenseless feeder. What did it ever do to you? What do you have against feeders?
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Would spitting in the trench be sufficient, or would the Primer of Curses need to be employed?
Stupid feeders.
Would spitting in the trench be sufficient, or would the Primer of Curses need to be employed?
Stupid feeders.
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Re: bare gound in conduit? is it o.k.
Originally posted by tx2step:
Bob -- why would you want to insult some poor defenseless feeder. What did it ever do to you? What do you have against feeders?
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Re: bare gound in conduit? is it o.k.
Originally posted by georgestolz:
Would spitting in the trench be sufficient, or would the Primer of Curses need to be employed?
Stupid feeders.
tx2step
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Originally posted by iwire:
Feeders??? Feeders??? We don't need no stinkin feeders!!!Stupid feeders.
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Re: bare gound in conduit? is it o.k.
Stinkin' no good lousy ****'s! They oughta go back to feederland where they came from, the bums! The lot of them!
I go straight from Service to branch circuits just to spite those lousy things!
Edit to add: I ripped 215 out of my book too!
[ August 02, 2005, 10:51 PM: Message edited by: georgestolz ]
Stinkin' no good lousy ****'s! They oughta go back to feederland where they came from, the bums! The lot of them!
I go straight from Service to branch circuits just to spite those lousy things!
Edit to add: I ripped 215 out of my book too!
[ August 02, 2005, 10:51 PM: Message edited by: georgestolz ]
tx2step
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Re: bare gound in conduit? is it o.k.
Originally posted by georgestolz:
I go straight from Service to branch circuits just to spite those lousy things!
tx2step
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Re: bare gound in conduit? is it o.k.
Originally posted by iwire:
I never get call backs, strangely many of these jobs I did are now gone, some weird coincidence about my method and fires.
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