bathroom circuit
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stamcon
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- South San Francisco CA
Re: bathroom circuit
The receptacles in the 3 bathrooms can be wired on the same 20A circuit. No other fixtures(lights, fans,..) can be on that circuit. If the circuit is dedicated to one bathroom only, lights, receptacle(s), fan,... can be on the circuit. It would not be recommended to wire 3 bathroom receptacles on the same circuit, if they would normally get simultaneous usage. The receptacles can be 15A rated if they are duplex or there are more
than one receptacle.
steve
The receptacles in the 3 bathrooms can be wired on the same 20A circuit. No other fixtures(lights, fans,..) can be on that circuit. If the circuit is dedicated to one bathroom only, lights, receptacle(s), fan,... can be on the circuit. It would not be recommended to wire 3 bathroom receptacles on the same circuit, if they would normally get simultaneous usage. The receptacles can be 15A rated if they are duplex or there are more
than one receptacle.
steve
jimwalker
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Re: bathroom circuit
If your going for quaility use the dedicated bath circuit.Only a few $$$$ more
If your going for quaility use the dedicated bath circuit.Only a few $$$$ more
Re: bathroom circuit
which do you guys think would take less time: one bath with its lights and recepts on a single 20 amp. then another bath next to it with the same setup. or one bath that shares lights on a 15 amp with the other bath, and recpets on a 20 with the other bath? i think in my case i already have two 15 amp branches there. so i will just pull a #12 home run. or should i spend more time and do more than one 20 amp branch there? i am putting in a new bath now but it is back to back with the existing bath. i will pull through the existing emt.
also wondering, can a light branch be shared between two baths if there is a shower light present in one bath requiring installation of a gfci breaker?
i am somewhat scared by the trend to put 20 amp service into bathrooms. the average $15 blowdryer and $10 curler most people use will melt the cord if the heating element shorts before the breaker will trip! however many of todays heat lamps/blowers really need a 20 amp branch to be reliable.what do you guys think about this?
thank you,
ron g.
which do you guys think would take less time: one bath with its lights and recepts on a single 20 amp. then another bath next to it with the same setup. or one bath that shares lights on a 15 amp with the other bath, and recpets on a 20 with the other bath? i think in my case i already have two 15 amp branches there. so i will just pull a #12 home run. or should i spend more time and do more than one 20 amp branch there? i am putting in a new bath now but it is back to back with the existing bath. i will pull through the existing emt.
also wondering, can a light branch be shared between two baths if there is a shower light present in one bath requiring installation of a gfci breaker?
i am somewhat scared by the trend to put 20 amp service into bathrooms. the average $15 blowdryer and $10 curler most people use will melt the cord if the heating element shorts before the breaker will trip! however many of todays heat lamps/blowers really need a 20 amp branch to be reliable.what do you guys think about this?
thank you,
ron g.
pierre
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- Westchester County, New York
Re: bathroom circuit
Ron
Design wise a 20 amp circuit to each bathroom is desirable and protected with the GFCI receptacle. The lighting circuit can be shared between baths as long as the circuit rating is not exceeded.
Pierre
Ron
Design wise a 20 amp circuit to each bathroom is desirable and protected with the GFCI receptacle. The lighting circuit can be shared between baths as long as the circuit rating is not exceeded.
Pierre
Re: bathroom circuit
since i am only working on one bath the code does not state that i have to change anything in the other bath beyond the existing code when the structure was built. the second bath is a hall bath and sees very limited usage. therefore i think i will run both baths lights off a 15 amp branch that is existing. i will run the single gfci recept in the hall bath off the other existing 15 amp branch. i will pull a #12 home run for the gfci recepcts(2) in the bath i am remodeling(master). does this sound ok?
ron g.
since i am only working on one bath the code does not state that i have to change anything in the other bath beyond the existing code when the structure was built. the second bath is a hall bath and sees very limited usage. therefore i think i will run both baths lights off a 15 amp branch that is existing. i will run the single gfci recept in the hall bath off the other existing 15 amp branch. i will pull a #12 home run for the gfci recepcts(2) in the bath i am remodeling(master). does this sound ok?
ron g.
jxofaltrds
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Re: bathroom circuit
"i will run the single gfci recept in the hall bath off the other existing 15 amp branch. i will pull a #12 home run for the gfci recepcts(2) in the bath i am remodeling(master). does this sound ok"
No.
"i will run the single gfci recept in the hall bath off the other existing 15 amp branch"
Sounds like you are adding this one. 20amp
circuit.
Feed the hall bath (recp) off the new bathroom (recp) circuit. If you do this the new bath lights will need to be on another circuit.
Mike P.
"i will run the single gfci recept in the hall bath off the other existing 15 amp branch. i will pull a #12 home run for the gfci recepcts(2) in the bath i am remodeling(master). does this sound ok"
No.
"i will run the single gfci recept in the hall bath off the other existing 15 amp branch"
Sounds like you are adding this one. 20amp
circuit.
Feed the hall bath (recp) off the new bathroom (recp) circuit. If you do this the new bath lights will need to be on another circuit.
Mike P.
jimwalker
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- TAMPA FLORIDA
Re: bathroom circuit
If you rewire that old hall bath that is not part of this remodel,then you must bring it to code.If you don't change that wiring then its grandfathered, if you rework it in any way its not.Would see no violation in tapping in additional lights.What im not seeing is why your messing with that hall bath at all.New bath,run #12 dedicated to just it.Everything on new bath on new circuit,what could be easier.
If you rewire that old hall bath that is not part of this remodel,then you must bring it to code.If you don't change that wiring then its grandfathered, if you rework it in any way its not.Would see no violation in tapping in additional lights.What im not seeing is why your messing with that hall bath at all.New bath,run #12 dedicated to just it.Everything on new bath on new circuit,what could be easier.
Re: bathroom circuit
i did this today. took forever because this old dump seems to have a j-box every 5 feet!
anyways, to make a long story short this is what i ended up with. single recept in hall bath on its own 15 amp gfci. lights in hall bath on their own 15 amp branch. recepts(2) in master on their own 20 amp branch with gfci outlets. lights in master bath on their own 15 amp branch with gfci breaker since their is a shower light.
i know this was more than was nescesary but it worked out easier this way. i had 3 existing 15 amp circuits that ended at the two baths and added one 20 amp like i planed. all branches going to the baths end in the baths now.
it will probably get inspected before someone replys to this. i asume it will pass this way.
it seems to be above and beyond my towns adoption of the nec.
ron g.
i did this today. took forever because this old dump seems to have a j-box every 5 feet!
anyways, to make a long story short this is what i ended up with. single recept in hall bath on its own 15 amp gfci. lights in hall bath on their own 15 amp branch. recepts(2) in master on their own 20 amp branch with gfci outlets. lights in master bath on their own 15 amp branch with gfci breaker since their is a shower light.
i know this was more than was nescesary but it worked out easier this way. i had 3 existing 15 amp circuits that ended at the two baths and added one 20 amp like i planed. all branches going to the baths end in the baths now.
it will probably get inspected before someone replys to this. i asume it will pass this way.
it seems to be above and beyond my towns adoption of the nec.
ron g.
gserve
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- New Hampshire
Re: bathroom circuit
These receptacle circuits need to be on 20 A circuits
These receptacle circuits need to be on 20 A circuits
jimwalker
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- TAMPA FLORIDA
Re: bathroom circuit
The hall bath is grandfathered in on the 15 recep and is fine.Other than you wasted a gfci in master for lights i think your fine.
The hall bath is grandfathered in on the 15 recep and is fine.Other than you wasted a gfci in master for lights i think your fine.
electricmanscott
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- Boston, MA
Re: bathroom circuit
"single recept in hall bath on its own 15 amp gfci." If this was a receptacle that you wired in you have created a violation. It makes no difference what if any work is being done to the bathroom. You do any new installation it must be done to current code. Your post does not make it clear if there was an existing receptacle in the old bath or you added one.
"single recept in hall bath on its own 15 amp gfci." If this was a receptacle that you wired in you have created a violation. It makes no difference what if any work is being done to the bathroom. You do any new installation it must be done to current code. Your post does not make it clear if there was an existing receptacle in the old bath or you added one.
jimwalker
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- TAMPA FLORIDA
Re: bathroom circuit
I gathered that at the most he changed the outlet to a gfci recep.Yes if he changed the wiring then it must be 20 amp
I gathered that at the most he changed the outlet to a gfci recep.Yes if he changed the wiring then it must be 20 amp
Re: bathroom circuit
it was inspected. it passed.
the hall bath HAD a 15 amp branch on the outlet ending with a gfci recept. i did NOT rewire the hall bath. all i did there was disconect the passthrough on the gfci to a duplex recept in the master. i put the master on it's own circuit. one for lights. one for outlets. the wiring in the hall bath remains the same, so it is grandfathered. i saw no reason to go tear apart the hall bath to get 20 amp recept in there. no one is going to use anything in that outlet. and just for the heck of it, it runs a 12 amp vacuum or a 2000 watt blowdryer just fine for as long as i care to(of course). the only problem would be if it shared an outlet with another room. but it does not.
now, i was wondering why someone stated "he wasted a gfci on the lights"? that is upsetting me! i thought if i had a shower can(sealed halo) i needed a gfci breaker on the lights? i paid $56 for a qo gfci breaker! could'nt get contractor price on single unit here. if i do not need this can i return it to home depot and pop in a standard qo 20 amp breaker without a reinspection?
thank you,
ron g.
it was inspected. it passed.
the hall bath HAD a 15 amp branch on the outlet ending with a gfci recept. i did NOT rewire the hall bath. all i did there was disconect the passthrough on the gfci to a duplex recept in the master. i put the master on it's own circuit. one for lights. one for outlets. the wiring in the hall bath remains the same, so it is grandfathered. i saw no reason to go tear apart the hall bath to get 20 amp recept in there. no one is going to use anything in that outlet. and just for the heck of it, it runs a 12 amp vacuum or a 2000 watt blowdryer just fine for as long as i care to(of course). the only problem would be if it shared an outlet with another room. but it does not.
now, i was wondering why someone stated "he wasted a gfci on the lights"? that is upsetting me! i thought if i had a shower can(sealed halo) i needed a gfci breaker on the lights? i paid $56 for a qo gfci breaker! could'nt get contractor price on single unit here. if i do not need this can i return it to home depot and pop in a standard qo 20 amp breaker without a reinspection?
thank you,
ron g.
jxofaltrds
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- ESI, PI, RBO
Re: bathroom circuit
"i paid $56 for a qo gfci breaker!"
Go to Lowe's or HD for QO breakers.
Mike P.
"i paid $56 for a qo gfci breaker!"
Go to Lowe's or HD for QO breakers.
Mike P.
electricmanscott
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- Boston, MA
Re: bathroom circuit
Your shower light does not require a gfci.
Your shower light does not require a gfci.
A
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Re: bathroom circuit
Ok guys put a fan light combo above the shower what do you need a gfci ???? I tink so
Ok guys put a fan light combo above the shower what do you need a gfci ???? I tink so
electricmanscott
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- Boston, MA
Re: bathroom circuit
Only if the manufacturer requires it. The NEC does not. Every fan that I have installed is required to have gfci protection over tub or shower per manufacturer instructions.
Only if the manufacturer requires it. The NEC does not. Every fan that I have installed is required to have gfci protection over tub or shower per manufacturer instructions.
jxofaltrds
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- Mike P. Columbus Ohio
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- ESI, PI, RBO
Re: bathroom circuit
Rong
You do not need a GFCI in your axample.
F/L combo does need a GFCI.
I know this is a homeline breaker http://www.lowes.com/lkn?action=productList&catalogId=B090255
But I know I only paid about $36-37 for a QO.
Mike P.
Rong
You do not need a GFCI in your axample.
F/L combo does need a GFCI.
I know this is a homeline breaker http://www.lowes.com/lkn?action=productList&catalogId=B090255
But I know I only paid about $36-37 for a QO.
Mike P.
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