Bathroom vanity sconces.

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nizak

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Would like some thoughts on heights for wall sconces above a bathroom vanity.

A lot I read says 60-65" off floor is standard. Quite a few fixtures Ive been coming across are as much as 20" long and on some the canopies are near the bottom.
not centered.

Centerline at 60-65" seems ok if the fixture is proportional to the base. Dropping the "lighted"portion or shade for instance to that height makes the fixture look way too low.
Any help appreciated.
 

LarryFine

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Insist on being about the lights to be used at rough-in, or a box height you won't be asked to change later (free).
 

infinity

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The best way is to cut the box in after the vanity is installed and the fixtures are on site this way they can be held up and adjusted to find the best look. I would leave a loop of cable in the approximate location for each light.
 

nizak

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The best way is to cut the box in after the vanity is installed and the fixtures are on site this way they can be held up and adjusted to find the best look. I would leave a loop of cable in the approximate location for each light.
 

nizak

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Not an option here. It's an exterior wall that will be getting spray foamed as well as having custom mirrored wall
finish installed prior to my return. Mirror will have be to be cut for outlet box prior to it being hung.
 

curt swartz

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I never make decisions on lighting outlet location. That's the job of the architect, interior designer, lighting designer or homeowner.
 

Dennis Alwon

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Get a location from the architect who should know the dimensions of the mirror etc. Are you talking above the mirror or to the sides of the mirror.
Above I usually set my box at 80-84" and sconces depends but around 60-66"
 
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infinity

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Not an option here. It's an exterior wall that will be getting spray foamed as well as having custom mirrored wall
finish installed prior to my return. Mirror will have be to be cut for outlet box prior to it being hung.
Then you shouldn't be making the decision on the location. There are too many variables, let someone else figure it out then if it's wrong you can get a change order to move them.
 

kwired

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Not an option here. It's an exterior wall that will be getting spray foamed as well as having custom mirrored wall
finish installed prior to my return. Mirror will have be to be cut for outlet box prior to it being hung.
Is mirror going all the way to ceiling? if not can't you put box so it is above mirror? Glass guys will thank you if they don't have to cut the glass.

That said is the house occupied by midgets? 60" is pretty low even for people considered on lower end of average height if it is going in the mirror area and would obscure use of the mirror.
 

Tulsa Electrician

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Work with the GC on that. If he don't than demand a elevation if not on the drawings. Get in writing.
Just hand them your pencil and say ok where do they go and I will get them I stalled and then wait.
 

Dennis Alwon

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Get the boxes in first especially with the mirror needing to be cut. Also be very careful when tightening those screws. One of my guys hung 2 sconces and it looked great until later that day when a large crack appeared. The mirror guys didn't cut the hole quite large enough so the screw was rubbing into the mirror. If they don't cut it correctly then don't hang it.
 

Little Bill

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I agree about getting either a print, or in writing, about where the lights go. Mount your boxes accordingly. If it's wrong, it's their problem.
 

James L

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66 inches works for a lot of fixtures, but not all.

I always ask for specs and an image.

One thing I've run into is small mounting bases on fixtures made in Europe.
 

romex jockey

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Is that the centerline of the outlet box? Or is that the height of the bulbs which could be12-15" above the mounting point?
good Q nizak

In the case of vanity fixtures, that may depend on 'tulip up' vs. 'tulip down' juxtaposed to mirror or med cab.

vanities are always site specific , dependent on the layout

But i digress, the 80" hails from >>Informative Annex J ADA Standards for Accessible Design, which many simply follow suit from

The practical aspect being photometrics are more comfortable overhead, than right in one's face

As an aside, i did have one 'lighting lady' spec a number of jobs w/60" aff

Every customer had me move them up......

~RJ~
 

kwired

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good Q nizak

In the case of vanity fixtures, that may depend on 'tulip up' vs. 'tulip down' juxtaposed to mirror or med cab.

vanities are always site specific , dependent on the layout

But i digress, the 80" hails from >>Informative Annex J ADA Standards for Accessible Design, which many simply follow suit from

The practical aspect being photometrics are more comfortable overhead, than right in one's face

As an aside, i did have one 'lighting lady' spec a number of jobs w/60" aff

Every customer had me move them up......

~RJ~
60" might be fine if they are "side lights". If it is a single center light I think user would not want it at approximately eye level when trying to look at themselves in the mirror and somewhere in the 80 inch range would be better for that. exception might be if they are normally seated at the vanity when they are using it.

I haven't seen a "tulip" fitter in a long time now, 1990 was 32 years ago ;)
 
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