Stevenfyeager
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- United States, Indiana
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- electrical contractor
In a commercial building, (animal clinic) can I put 3 bathrooms (outlets) on one circuit? Or does each bath outlet need a circuit? (Indiana)
Bathrooms in commercial building
- Thread starter Stevenfyeager
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- Chapel Hill, NC
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- Retired Electrical Contractor
The only rule that I know about for commercial baths is that if you install a receptacle then it must be gfci. Tje residential rule that you alluded to does not come into play
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- Chapel Hill, NC
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- Retired Electrical Contractor
To clarify you don't even have to have the receptacles on the same circuit. They can come off any other circuit you wish
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- Massachusetts
You do not even have to provide an outlet at all if the customer does not want one. Or it can be a 15 amp circuit, or tied into the lighting circuit, whatever you want.
As Dennis pointed out the only rule is that if you do put one in it must be GFCI.
kwired
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- NE Nebraska
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- EC
Note that 210.52, in which sub part D is for bathrooms, is for dwelling units. Also 210.11, in which sub part C is for bathrooms, is also for dwelling units. Between those two sections we have the requirements for 20 amp circuits and no other outlets to be supplied other then bathroom outlets - but they both apply to dwelling units only as mentioned in the title of each section.
There is no similar requirements for non dwelling unit bathrooms. You will need to figure a minimum 180 VA per outlet though for load calculations if there is no specific load intended to be supplied by the outlet.
There is no similar requirements for non dwelling unit bathrooms. You will need to figure a minimum 180 VA per outlet though for load calculations if there is no specific load intended to be supplied by the outlet.
Stevenfyeager
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- United States, Indiana
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- electrical contractor
Thank you !
Cow
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- Eastern Oregon
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- Electrician
I actually try to avoid putting receptacles in commercial bathrooms unless the customer or plans specifically mention one. They don't get used like they do in a home. I think the only reason some electricians put them in is because they think a bathroom is a bathroom, if a home gets one, then so should this commercial bathroom.
I always do it just because ive always done it, and always see it. Also, because ive had numerous electricians call me tell me one is required and rather then argue, sometimes its just easier to go along with the myth.
If for some reason some needs to make repairs using a power tool, its better that they use a GFI protected receptacle rather then one in the corridor.
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- Licensed Electrician
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- Massachusetts
Unless the customer asks for it, or it is on the print I do not put one in.
It is only a liability in most cases, not a benefit.
Knightryder12
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- Clearwater, FL - USA
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- Sr. Electrical Designer/Project Manager
As an electrical designer, I usually only put them in ganged bathrooms for cleaning purposes. Like others have said, no need for one by the sinks unless the owner wants one.
mwm1752
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- Aspen, Colo
I hope I'm never homeless in DGO. That was pretty insensitive - could be a vet down on thier luck. Still no requirement for a recept per NEC code.
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- Massachusetts
You must not live near a city.
Many bathrooms they put locks on the doors and you need s code. Even restaurants like pizza and sandwich shops, the code will be on the sales receipt.
mwm1752
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- Aspen, Colo
You'll have to define city -- cause I might be living in a town
I know its not a metropolis
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- Massachusetts
You'll have to define city -- cause I might be living in a town
So life is beautiful for everyone there? No problem with the local homeless / drug users / drunks taking over bathrooms and trashing them? Must be nice.
Because that is definitely an issue in Boston.
mwm1752
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So life is beautiful for everyone there? No problem with the local homeless / drug users / drunks taking over bathrooms and trashing them? Must be nice.
Because that is definitely an issue in Boston.
Life is what you make of it -- There are problems everywhere --- owners have the right to protect thier property -- to profile a set of people happens & I am as guilty as well at times -- still think the comment was insensitive :happyno:
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