Blender in Commerical Application

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I have a single phase 110/120V blender rated at 18A. I dont think it should be considered continuous load. the manufacturer recommends the blender be protected with a 20 amp circuit breaker and be on its own circuit. should the blender be considered a motor and the breaker be rated at 2.5X the load? it will be on its own nema 5-20R outlet. im not sure if 422 appliances or 430 motor loads applies here. 422.11(G) is what is confusing me.
 
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the manufacturer recommends the blender be protected with a 20 amp circuit breaker and be on its own circuit.
110.3(B) Installation and Use Listed or labeled equipment shall be installed and used in accordance with any instructions included in the listing or labeling.

It sounds to me like you need to comply with 110.3(B). I am assuming that you have gotten the information from the manufacturer's instructions. :D
 
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110.3(B) Installation and Use. Listed or labeled equipment "shall be" installed and used in accordance with any instructions included in listing or labeling. This is the one I go to for equipment installation. If it doesn't work, I haven't voided any warranty.
 
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Good question! You are thinking this through better than I could have, when I was a "new EE."

My answer is that a 20 amp branch circuit is appropriate for this load. Here's my reasoning:
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  • <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Start with 422.11. It says to protect motors against overloads using sub-paragraphs A to G and using 422.10. We'll come back to 422.10 later.</font>
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  • <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">422.11(G) tells you to go to 430.</font>
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  • <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Within 430, the discussion of overload protection begins in Part III, article 430.31. That is just a general discussion.</font>
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  • <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">430.32 does not apply, as your motor is not continuous.</font>
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  • <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">430.33 says that for intermittent duty motors you can use the circuit breaker, so long as the overcurrent setting is within Table 430.52.</font>
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  • <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You are talking about a 20 amp breaker and an 18 amp load. That is overcurrent protection at 111%. This is well within the limits of Table 430.52.</font>
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  • <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Back to 422.10. Since this is an individual load, and since it is not continuous, you do not need to use the 125% factor.</font>
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  • <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Therefore, a 20 amp branch circuit will work.</font>
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">QED
 
Re: Blender in Commerical Application

Originally posted by charlie b:
Good question! You are thinking this through better than I could have, when I was a "new EE."

My answer is that a 20 amp branch circuit is appropriate for this load. Here's my reasoning:
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  • <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Start with 422.11. It says to protect motors against overloads using sub-paragraphs A to G and using 422.10. We'll come back to 422.10 later.</font>
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"></font>
  • <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">422.11(G) tells you to go to 430.</font>
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"></font>
  • <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Within 430, the discussion of overload protection begins in Part III, article 430.31. That is just a general discussion.</font>
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"></font>
  • <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">430.32 does not apply, as your motor is not continuous.</font>
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"></font>
  • <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">430.33 says that for intermittent duty motors you can use the circuit breaker, so long as the overcurrent setting is within Table 430.52.</font>
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"></font>
  • <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You are talking about a 20 amp breaker and an 18 amp load. That is overcurrent protection at 111%. This is well within the limits of Table 430.52.</font>
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"></font>
  • <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Back to 422.10. Since this is an individual load, and since it is not continuous, you do not need to use the 125% factor.</font>
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"></font>
  • <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Therefore, a 20 amp branch circuit will work.</font>
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">QED
Wow. Thanks for taking the time to post that. That is the exact process I went through. Being new, I guess I'm just a little unsure of myself.
 
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