Bond copper line?

[mmercado83]

Hello, new guy here, im here to learn, thanks for any help.

Trying to install new residential VS pool pump, there is no bonding anywhere, other then breaking concrete to get to pool rebar, is there a different way?

From searching on this forum I found some guys bond with a clamp/wire on a copper gas or water line?
Heres the video. around 1:24 shows the copper gas and return water line.
Hey thanks!
marty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFtYpJcRMAk

 

[GoldDigger]

If I understand the situation correctly, the problem is that you need to bond the equipment (at least the motor) to an equipotential grid around the pool.
Just connecting the pump to an EGC, the thing you would normally do for electrical equipment likely to become energized, is not what is required.
(And connecting to even a well earthed structure of pipe does not take the place of a solid EGC for the other requirement.)

If there is no rebar or suitable bonding means as part of the pool structure (if it is concrete or otherwise conductive) and there is no bonding in the substrate around the edge of the pool, you have a very hard job making the final installation compliant!

What I can not advise you about is whether the replacement of a pump in an existing pool triggers full equipotential grid bonding if that was not a requirement at the time of construction.
If an EPG was required at construction time but was never installed and was not caught by the permit process at that time, then whoever does the work will probably be on the hook to redo the entire system, or risk failing inspection.

If the whole installation is new, it should not pass no matter what you do just to the pump.

 

[mmercado83]

Hey thanks for the info. The pool is at least 25+ years old just going by equipment, the home is 35+ years.
Seems like more trouble then its worth, guess I have to turn her away.
How would a electrician find out if where the rebar is, metal detector or just break concrete and look?

If I understand the situation correctly, the problem is that you need to bond the equipment (at least the motor) to an equipotential grid around the pool.
Just connecting the pump to an EGC, the thing you would normally do for electrical equipment likely to become energized, is not what is required.
(And connecting to even a well earthed structure of pipe does not take the place of a solid EGC for the other requirement.)

If there is no rebar or suitable bonding means as part of the pool structure (if it is concrete or otherwise conductive) and there is no bonding in the substrate around the edge of the pool, you have a very hard job making the final installation compliant!

What I can not advise you about is whether the replacement of a pump in an existing pool triggers full equipotential grid bonding if that was not a requirement at the time of construction.
If an EPG was required at construction time but was never installed and was not caught by the permit process at that time, then whoever does the work will probably be on the hook to redo the entire system, or risk failing inspection.

If the whole installation is new, it should not pass no matter what you do just to the pump.