Bonding Locknuts on EMT

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I have several runs of EMT with service entrance conductors in them and fully punched KO's. On one end the EMT connectors have bonding locknuts. Are bonding locknuts generally listed for use with EMT connectors?

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I have installed them that way

I have installed them that way

I would think you would really need to check the UL white book
To see if they have been tested for this use.
 
I am tempted to say it shouldn't matter what they are used on, concluding that using the fact that there are not different locknuts for different conduits and connectors....but ya never know, there could be another layer of stupidness there: Bonding locknuts don't make as good a connection as properly tightened, quality regular ones, in my experience.
 
I am tempted to say it shouldn't matter what they are used on, concluding that using the fact that there are not different locknuts for different conduits and connectors....but ya never know, there could be another layer of stupidness there: Bonding locknuts don't make as good a connection as properly tightened, quality regular ones, in my experience.

I agree about the connection. The issue we're having is if you take the factory locknut that came on the 4" EMT connector and bang it on with a hammer and chisel it is very tight and nicely cuts the paint on the enclosure. Do the same with the bonding locknuts and they will slip and spin around never really getting tight. It seems that the factory EMT connector locknuts are slightly smaller.

As a test we took a locknut off of an EMT connector and threaded it onto the factory thread of RMC and it only goes on about 1/3 of the way. The bonding locknuts on the same RMC go on all the wall to the back of the thread.
 
From UL

Grounding and Bonding Locknuts — Grounding and bonding locknuts
serve in a manner similar to grounding and bonding bushings except they
do not provide abrasion protection for the conductor at the end of the
conduit.


Grounding and Bonding Bushings — Bonding bushings for use with
conduit fittings, tubing (EMT) fittings, threaded rigid metal and intermediate
metal conduit, or unthreaded rigid metal and intermediate metal conduit
are provided with means (usually one or more set screws) for reliably
bonding the bushing (and the conduit on which it is attached) to the metal
equipment enclosure or box. They provide the electrical continuity
required by the NEC at service equipment and for circuits rated over 250
V. Means for connecting a grounding or bonding conductor are not provided
and if there is need for such a conductor a grounding bushing
should be used.
Grounding bushings for use with conduit fittings, tubing (EMT) fittings,
threaded rigid metal and intermediate metal conduit, or unthreaded rigid
metal and intermediate metal conduit have provision for the connection of
a bonding or grounding wire or have means for mounting a wire connector
available from the manufacturer. Such a bushing may also have means
(usually one or more set screws) for reliably bonding the bushing to the
metal equipment enclosure or box in the same manner that this is accomplished
by a bonding bushing. Grounding bushings provide the electrical
continuity required by the NEC at service equipment and for circuits rated
over 250 V. They may be used with or without a bonding or grounding
conductor as determined by the bonding or grounding function that is
intended to be accomplished.
Insulating throat liners in grounding or bonding bushings are suitable
for temperatures of 150°C if they are black or brown in color. Unless otherwise
marked, insulating throat liners of any other color are suitable for
temperatures of 90°C.
 
I agree about the connection. The issue we're having is if you take the factory locknut that came on the 4" EMT connector and bang it on with a hammer and chisel it is very tight and nicely cuts the paint on the enclosure. Do the same with the bonding locknuts and they will slip and spin around never really getting tight. It seems that the factory EMT connector locknuts are slightly smaller.

As a test we took a locknut off of an EMT connector and threaded it onto the factory thread of RMC and it only goes on about 1/3 of the way. The bonding locknuts on the same RMC go on all the wall to the back of the thread.

Seems to imply the issue is the bonding locknuts are junk. I'm so sick of the quality of some of this stuff. Have had a lot of trouble with locknuts skipping in certain brands of larger pv, had problems with emt fittings too.
 
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