bonding neu. in transformer

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do you need to run a wire from the ground lug to the x0 lug to gound the neutral in a transformer. is the ground strap connected too the xo in the transformer.if it is can this be ok for the bonding of the neutral
 
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edwar.lane@snet.net said:
do you need to run a wire from the ground lug to the x0 lug to gound the neutral in a transformer. is the ground strap connected too the xo in the transformer.if it is can this be ok for the bonding of the neutral

edwar, It's not 'cool' to edit your post after someone has answered the question.

The factory strap connects the case to the core. So,no.
 
Is it against code to bond both the xfmr and at the first disconnecting means? I have witnessed it many times.
 
gk351 said:
Is it against code to bond both the xfmr and at the first disconnecting means? I have witnessed it many times.
If it is an utility transformer, then no, but if it is a SDS covered by the NEC, then it is a violation.
 
don_resqcapt19 said:
If it is an utility transformer, then no, but if it is a SDS covered by the NEC, then it is a violation.

ok....So if you have a 480/277 XFMR from the utility company that feeds a 600A MDP then its fine to bond in both places....whats the story if you had fed a 120/208 Step-down XFMR that feeds 100 Amp Lighting Panel from the 600A MDP. Would you bond the 120/208 XFMR? The lighting panel? This subject has always thrown me off, enlighten me please!
 
from Mike article, link posted in previous post:

The neutral-to-case bond can be made at the source of a separately derived system or at the first system disconnecting means or OCPD. When there's no secondary side disconnecting means or overcurrent device(s), the neutral-to-case bond is made at the source of the separately derived system.

The neutral-to-case connection for a separately derived system can't be made at more than one location if it results in a parallel path for neutral current flow [250.30(A)(1) Exception No. 1]. Such multiple neutral current return paths to the grounded (neutral) conductor of the power supply can create fire and shock hazards, as well as power quality problems due to EMI [250.6 and 250.142(A)].

You must size a grounding electrode conductor for a single separately derived system in accordance with 250.66, based on the total area of the largest secondary ungrounded (hot) conductor. This conductor shall connect the grounded conductor of the derived system to the grounding electrode as specified in 250.30(A)(4). The grounding electrode conductor must terminate at the same point on the separately derived system where the neutral-to-case bonding jumper is installed [250.30(A)(1)].
 
gk351 said:
ok....So if you have a 480/277 XFMR from the utility company that feeds a 600A MDP then its fine to bond in both places....whats the story if you had fed a 120/208 Step-down XFMR that feeds 100 Amp Lighting Panel from the 600A MDP. Would you bond the 120/208 XFMR? The lighting panel? This subject has always thrown me off, enlighten me please!

I focus in on the word in your above post, "utility"
Utility distribution uses a different system, different philosophy, different code requirements/rules.

Utility uses multipoint grounding. . They ground their neutral at multiple points thruout their distribution and don't use a separate equipment ground. . Both unbalanced operating current and fault current use the neutral. . That concept continues on thru your service drop/lateral up until your main/service disconnect. . That's why your service entrance conductors don't include an equipment ground. . And that's why you're allowed by NEC to bond one electrode conductor [such as from the ground rod] to a lineside meterbase outside and then bond a different electrode conductor [such as from the watermain] to an inside service disconnect [250.24(A)(1)]. . Sometimes on the service, multipoint is not only allowed, but it's required [250.24(A)2)]. . It's a continuation of utility multipoint grounding.

Usage [service loadside] uses single point grounding and use a separate equipment ground for fault current. . The concept is to keep operating current flow off of the conductor that will be used to clear the fault. . That keeps current flow off of the conductor that is attached to metal parts that are accessible to John Q public [250.24(A)(5)].

For a separately derived system, such as a transformer, you can choose which spot you want to pick for your single point ground. . If you choose the transformer, you leave the XO to case jumper installed and isolate your neutrals from your equipment grounds and enclosure inside your panel. . If you choose the first disconnect, you remove the XO to case jumper and treat your first disconnect like a service panel. . No separation/isolation of neutrals from equipment grounds or enclosure.
 
Don't forget the NEC allows bonding at the transformer and the first disconnect if there are no parallel metallic paths between them ..... pretty much as a service is wired.
 
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