Box above cut in can light

[MiamiValleyelec]

Is it allowed to mount a box in a hard ceiling above a cut in can light? I don’t see much of a difference between that and putting a box in a drop ceiling.

 

[rc/retired]

Is it allowed to mount a box in a hard ceiling above a cut in can light? I don’t see much of a difference between that and putting a box in a drop ceiling.

IMO, as long as it meets the definition of accessible, I'm ok with it. Truth be told, I have done this.

 

[MiamiValleyelec]

IMO, as long as it meets the definition of accessible, I'm ok with it. Truth be told, I have done this.

That’s my opinion too, thanks

 

[infinity]

I've done this too and will do it again if needed. I don't have the book with me but I believe that the 2020 NEC outlawed this practice.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

The problem with it is that you would never be able to find the junction box unless you installed it.

 

[Greentagger]

410.118.

 

[MiamiValleyelec]

The problem with it is that you would never be able to find the junction box unless you installed it.

So that just means I’m the only one that can do work at this house then, right?

 

[qcroanoke]

So that just means I’m the only one that can do work at this house then, right?

It wouldn't matter. I wouldn't remember putting one there in a year's time

 

[wwhitney]

410.118.

New for 2020 but exactly covers the OP's question.

Cheers, Wayne

 

[Little Bill]

410.118.

New for 2020 but exactly covers the OP's question.

Cheers, Wayne

For those not on the 2020, or don't have a copy, how about someone posting that section?

 

[wwhitney]

For those not on the 2020, or don't have a copy, how about someone posting that section?

Sure. The 2020 NEC is also available online at up.codes, since MA has adopted it.

https://up.codes/viewer/massachusetts/nfpa-70-2020/chapter/4/equipment-for-general-use#410.118

410.118 Access to Other Boxes

Luminaires recessed in ceilings, floors, or walls shall not be used to access outlet, pull, or junction boxes or conduit bodies, unless the box or conduit body is an integral part of the listed luminaire.

Cheers, Wayne

 

[infinity]

Aside from the box not being very easy to find why do we need this new code rule? It still is accessible. Another dumb code section.